Ep.29: 2024 - The Year of Satanic Solidarity and Action

# Episode 29: 2024 - The Year of Satanic Solidarity and Action

00:00:01.439 welcome dear listeners to Satanist next
00:00:03.600 door we're your host lilan LaVin and
00:00:06.120 Tommy LaVin whether you're an
00:00:07.720 openminded curious on licker or fellow
00:00:09.679 Satanist seeking camaraderie our goal is
00:00:11.840 to share our personal experiences and
00:00:13.759 delve into the intricate tapestry of
00:00:15.480 Satanism in our daily lives occasionally
00:00:17.960 inviting other guests to share their
00:00:19.320 unique perspectives leaving no pentagram
00:00:21.600 unturned we'll explore how our beliefs
00:00:23.840 shape our views on society dive into
00:00:25.760 struggles and triumphs we've encountered
00:00:27.560 and reveal the humanity that unites us
00:00:29.519 all so grab your favorite showas and
00:00:32.119 join us on this captivating Journey
00:00:34.120 satanus next door is ready to peel back
00:00:36.120 the curtain and offer you a glimpse into
00:00:37.800 our world one captivating episode at a
00:00:44.330 [Music]
00:00:58.920 time
00:01:00.380 [Music]
00:01:02.359 hello and welcome to another episode of
00:01:04.000 Satanist next door um today we were
00:01:07.040 going to talk a little bit about Satan
00:01:09.159 con and you know how it was um how it
00:01:13.280 was cancelled for 2025 but 2024 or I'm
00:01:17.720 sorry 2024 but more importantly than it
00:01:22.159 being cancelled the reaction or lack of
00:01:26.520 a negative reaction from the community
00:01:28.720 how I was really you know when I saw
00:01:30.759 this first come out I was like oh [ __ ]
00:01:33.240 here we go again but I I've been very
00:01:36.799 happy with you know what I've seen so
00:01:39.320 far you know I've seen Unity throughout
00:01:41.840 the community I've seen people asking
00:01:43.799 okay what can we do instead and and
00:01:46.280 things like that and that's what
00:01:47.520 satanists are supposed to do you know
00:01:50.119 you know hey something didn't happen
00:01:52.439 okay there's some disappointment there
00:01:54.240 that's that's an okay emotion and what
00:01:56.520 can I do yeah and I think that's a good
00:01:59.399 time to try and if you're confused about
00:02:01.520 it um to reach out maybe to the
00:02:03.840 executive Ministry since they put it out
00:02:05.880 there and um just say you know I saw
00:02:08.598 this call for Unity I I know they're
00:02:10.758 trying to build bigger stronger Better
00:02:12.920 Community what does that look like how
00:02:15.200 can I be a part of that what are we
00:02:16.599 going to try and build together here and
00:02:19.000 you know I encourage everyone that's
00:02:21.400 confused or curious or wants to be
00:02:24.000 involved let's get that conversation
00:02:26.000 going yeah and and let's again let's
00:02:27.959 keep it let's keep it positive 2024 is
00:02:30.920 going to be a year from
00:02:33.440 hell I mean when you think politically
00:02:36.800 at least in America you know I
00:02:39.280 understand overseas other countries
00:02:41.319 maybe not so bad they still might be
00:02:43.280 looking at what the [ __ ] going to
00:02:44.480 happen in America because that could
00:02:46.159 affect us but you know we we're
00:02:48.519 literally this year fighting for oh sure
00:02:52.239 I mean our Dem
00:02:53.640 democracy that you know again let's not
00:02:56.319 get into the constitutional republic
00:02:58.200 thing we have a Democratic process that
00:03:01.040 we use for voting here I don't love the
00:03:03.400 two- party system I definitely think
00:03:04.840 there's lots of room for improvement on
00:03:06.560 many different facets but um you know we
00:03:09.400 have enough things right now as a
00:03:12.000 society uh to be focused on working to
00:03:15.040 to build something better and I think as
00:03:17.920 Satanist in particular as any community
00:03:20.599 that is looking at what might happen and
00:03:23.040 wondering what is this going to look
00:03:24.480 like for me if it doesn't go well I
00:03:27.000 think as leaders in a community we have
00:03:29.200 a unique
00:03:30.280 capability to kind of have that pulse of
00:03:32.760 our community mind to help provide
00:03:35.720 strategy to help provide a structure to
00:03:38.760 help provide stability in a time that is
00:03:40.560 going to feel very chaotic very unstable
00:03:43.599 and scary for a lot of people well I
00:03:46.200 mean very scary because you know one one
00:03:49.360 the obvious person on the Republican
00:03:52.159 side I mean let's I'm I'm not playing
00:03:55.239 any pretend fantasy world that the
00:03:58.439 current frun other people are going to
00:04:01.159 magically you know rise up you know the
00:04:04.599 the fact that the current front runner
00:04:06.200 Trump is up by how you know the amount
00:04:09.079 of points that there is that much
00:04:10.640 distance between him and the other
00:04:12.159 candidates with everything we know about
00:04:15.360 Trump I'm not talking about things we
00:04:17.478 don't know or kind of the things we know
00:04:20.199 you know he was convicted in you know
00:04:23.080 civil of of rape you know right the EEG
00:04:27.120 Carol yeah you know um participated in
00:04:31.440 an Insurrection I you know January 6th
00:04:34.240 just kind of came the anniversary of
00:04:36.639 that and we have lawmakers who on
00:04:39.360 January 7th a couple years ago right
00:04:41.680 after their life was endangered were
00:04:43.560 like oh my God this can never happen
00:04:45.240 again Trump crossed the line to now
00:04:47.240 they're like ah it was just kind of a
00:04:48.840 tour that you know kind of went a little
00:04:50.880 bit bad yeah look they can paint
00:04:53.520 whatever picture they want and try to
00:04:55.400 recreate history which is so common with
00:04:58.120 so many aspects of our hisorical record
00:05:00.960 you could go back before I even existed
00:05:03.520 and the same thing happened with other
00:05:05.400 powers that be trying to reite things
00:05:07.759 for their own purposes I sat there
00:05:10.639 mortified watching it live on TV it
00:05:14.000 wasn't because the news that I happen to
00:05:16.639 have on was pushing a narrative I
00:05:18.560 changed the channel I looked at
00:05:20.360 different options for what was happening
00:05:22.120 and you know what they were all showing
00:05:23.759 they were showing a group of
00:05:25.000 disenfranchised people wearing magga
00:05:27.360 merch wearing Confederate Flags wearing
00:05:30.960 all manner of different things Trump
00:05:33.720 with flags with flag poles which I think
00:05:36.520 was the most disturbing part they were
00:05:38.440 going around with flag poles some with
00:05:39.919 spear tips they were hitting people with
00:05:42.680 these flag poles they were hitting
00:05:44.520 police officers with flag poles they
00:05:46.520 were busting through barriers they were
00:05:48.400 breaking Windows they were climbing
00:05:50.120 scaffolding and they were acting like
00:05:51.960 crazed animals um just really hyped up
00:05:56.160 from a speech they had just sat through
00:05:58.680 where the person at the time he was the
00:06:00.880 president continually talked about how
00:06:03.080 they've been wrong that the people have
00:06:04.600 been disenfranchised that everything was
00:06:07.039 manipulated that they just continually
00:06:09.240 picked apart the system that we have in
00:06:11.440 place flawed as it may be where people
00:06:13.880 participated in a voting process a legal
00:06:16.240 voting process legal voting process do
00:06:18.639 we all think there's things that could
00:06:20.000 be improved there Absol freaking lutely
00:06:22.440 do I think that some massive voter fraud
00:06:24.680 happened and that Donald Trump actually
00:06:27.000 won that election no do not do I believe
00:06:31.000 that things were manipulated in certain
00:06:33.160 areas for different things sure but I
00:06:35.759 don't believe overall overwhelmingly
00:06:38.520 that this particular election was geared
00:06:40.840 to not allow Trump to win what I think
00:06:43.120 happened is he lost because he's a
00:06:45.440 selfish
00:06:47.160 self-imposed dictator narcissist who who
00:06:51.160 wants desperately to be what he idolizes
00:06:54.479 which are people like Kim janun which
00:06:56.240 are people like Vladimir Putin and and
00:06:58.759 people like that that or who he
00:07:00.360 constantly talks about these beautiful
00:07:02.319 relationships that he has guys wake up
00:07:05.680 yeah you know and so I I was when when
00:07:08.840 this announcement about Satan con came
00:07:11.000 out I I was a little disappointed
00:07:13.919 because this year at least it sounded
00:07:16.400 like it might fall on the time of the
00:07:18.520 year where we could go and oh by the way
00:07:20.639 for the future Satan con committee like
00:07:23.039 it's not about us but it's not about us
00:07:25.599 but could you please schedule Satan con
00:07:28.720 so that if Falls like in the summer or
00:07:30.720 something like that so people with
00:07:32.240 children can attend would be really nice
00:07:35.120 um
00:07:36.199 that's no I mean whatever is going to
00:07:38.720 work for the majority of people I know I
00:07:40.759 just but it would be cool yeah cuz this
00:07:42.879 was like the one that it sounded like we
00:07:44.879 were going to be able to go to and so I
00:07:46.560 was I was a little bit excited about it
00:07:48.680 and but you know at the same time I
00:07:50.199 understood I was like yeah this isn't
00:07:52.080 this isn't the time this isn't the place
00:07:53.879 and and I was I was holding my breath I
00:07:56.520 was like oh my gosh we just you know we
00:07:59.599 just had a podcast about you know all
00:08:02.000 this sort of stuff and so yeah no so it
00:08:05.599 did make me just like you know we talked
00:08:07.759 about this I was worried that there
00:08:09.000 would be a lot of um Angry resentful
00:08:12.400 messages or negative commentary and I
00:08:14.639 didn't see that and for those that
00:08:16.199 haven't necessarily seen it though I'm
00:08:18.120 I'm not sure how but it's possible um
00:08:20.520 the announcement that I saw go out
00:08:23.000 publicly was the year 2024 will be a
00:08:25.360 pivotal in our ongoing battle against
00:08:27.639 theocracy our commitment to this cause
00:08:30.440 requires us to decide our or I'm sorry
00:08:33.399 dedicate our energy and resources to
00:08:35.839 preparing for the challenges we will
00:08:37.719 face with this in mind after thoughtful
00:08:40.760 deliberation we've made the decision to
00:08:42.839 postpone our next Satan con event to
00:08:45.680 2025 looking ahead we are enthusiastic
00:08:48.440 about devoting this year to fortifying
00:08:50.440 tst's Mission and aligning our efforts
00:08:52.959 with our core initiatives although the
00:08:56.120 absence of Satan Con in 2024 is
00:08:58.320 disappointing we are filled with
00:09:00.440 optimism for the future we want to
00:09:02.560 express our sincere appreciation to the
00:09:04.959 members of the Satan con committee their
00:09:07.360 dedication and hard work have been
00:09:09.200 invaluable in shaping our community and
00:09:11.680 for this we are profoundly grateful so
00:09:13.880 that's a lot of positive things that
00:09:15.279 were said yep um I I don't see it again
00:09:18.360 as a negative um you know as we talked
00:09:20.959 about it I think it is a good
00:09:22.640 opportunity and it's something that a
00:09:24.040 lot of people have asked for you know
00:09:26.040 how do um we all work together to make
00:09:28.839 sure TST is strong and that we're
00:09:30.839 communicating well with one another um
00:09:32.680 another thing that I often hear from the
00:09:34.680 global uh TST Community is you know how
00:09:37.760 can we participate better in TST because
00:09:40.000 I know the United States has a lot of
00:09:41.640 crazy things going on it naturally
00:09:43.920 affects things throughout the world and
00:09:46.120 and within an organization that is so um
00:09:49.040 American Centric uh but how do we
00:09:52.279 connect more with a global Community how
00:09:54.240 do we work together to create cohesion
00:09:57.000 and create opportunity for one another
00:09:59.279 to to find support throughout the
00:10:01.279 organization so I think this is a good
00:10:03.279 place for us to move forward from and
00:10:05.680 ask how we can participate what
00:10:07.519 participation looks like how we can
00:10:09.399 provide um some of the things we would
00:10:11.560 like to see whether or not we have
00:10:14.360 tangible plans that that's one thing we
00:10:17.200 can start to put those together but this
00:10:18.560 is a good time now to formulate what
00:10:20.480 that might look like what we might need
00:10:22.360 what we might like to see and kind of
00:10:24.480 start putting that together into
00:10:26.120 something actionable because like they
00:10:28.079 said you know there is a chance that
00:10:30.160 theocracy is is very much knocking at at
00:10:33.079 the [ __ ] door yeah I mean it really
00:10:35.360 is so I want to say thank you to every
00:10:39.040 member of TST that took the news was
00:10:42.079 disappointed but moved on and to just
00:10:45.240 kind of took it in stride and you know
00:10:47.639 some of the congregations have done
00:10:50.160 things themselves I know one was already
00:10:52.600 in the works but before this actually
00:10:55.200 two I know that the um the Dirty South
00:10:58.120 Region was already looking to do some
00:11:00.040 kind of thing um because we usually do
00:11:02.240 something yearly but there has been
00:11:03.959 because of covid and life there was kind
00:11:06.120 of a gap there and then I believe
00:11:08.440 Florida was also looking to put
00:11:10.160 something together just because you know
00:11:12.200 it's nice sometimes with our regions we
00:11:14.480 can't always travel uh as far as some of
00:11:17.120 the events have been so it's nice to
00:11:19.519 have something maybe a bit more in our
00:11:21.839 our area um to look forward to uh not
00:11:25.160 that I'm I'm looking forward to
00:11:27.639 Florida person say but the people in
00:11:30.200 Florida the people in Florida the event
00:11:32.000 in Florida but yeah yeah do I do I care
00:11:35.320 if the Santos gets but hurt about it no
00:11:38.560 uh do I love hanging out with other
00:11:40.320 fellow Satanist that are dealing with
00:11:41.839 the same sort of things Texans are
00:11:44.560 absolutely um because we uniquely in the
00:11:47.120 South know from the perspective of holy
00:11:49.519 crap this could be so much worse um and
00:11:51.839 it's good to be able to talk to people
00:11:53.279 who are sharing the same stressors that
00:11:55.120 you are yeah and so I mean I was I was
00:11:58.360 happy to see that because you know at
00:12:00.560 the end of the day I think that's that's
00:12:02.079 part of what has missed when things have
00:12:04.920 gone arai is somebody or a group of
00:12:08.560 somebody's will get upset at TST or em
00:12:12.839 because something didn't happen or um
00:12:15.800 you know a cause didn't get as much of
00:12:17.600 attention or or something like that and
00:12:19.320 instead of saying what can we do you
00:12:21.480 know what can as Satanist we should be
00:12:24.320 you know we are sort of in charge of our
00:12:26.800 emotions we're in charge of our actions
00:12:28.639 we in charge of all of that sort of
00:12:30.240 stuff so something didn't happen the way
00:12:32.079 that I wanted it to what can I make it
00:12:34.519 what can I do to make it better or make
00:12:37.000 it happen the way that I want it and
00:12:39.120 then take action and do it and I'm just
00:12:42.399 really really really proud of the
00:12:44.440 community and what I've seen so far yeah
00:12:47.440 you know and there are lots of things
00:12:49.360 that we can do whether you're in
00:12:51.480 congregation leadership whether you're
00:12:53.600 in a congregation whether you're just a
00:12:56.199 Satanist floating around and wondering
00:12:58.079 what is it that we can accomplish there
00:13:00.120 are tons of things going on right now so
00:13:02.199 there are committees that you can be
00:13:03.800 involved in there are um initiatives
00:13:06.040 that you can reach out and get involved
00:13:07.600 in if you're not TST there are community
00:13:10.519 events that you can get involved in
00:13:11.800 there's atheist organizations out there
00:13:13.680 that are trying to work together to
00:13:15.839 create different change and create
00:13:17.440 different opportunity freedom from
00:13:19.000 religion is another organization out
00:13:20.639 there that's actively doing things to
00:13:22.800 deal with some of the Theocratic stress
00:13:24.480 that we're all dealing with so heavily
00:13:26.240 um so there are lots and lots and lots
00:13:28.440 of opportunities if you feel so
00:13:30.880 compelled to go out there and to do
00:13:33.560 things to actually create change yeah
00:13:37.199 and you know we'll always have another
00:13:40.480 chance to get together you know
00:13:43.120 sometimes things happen life happens and
00:13:46.040 you know that's when it's like okay this
00:13:48.279 didn't work we'll get together you know
00:13:50.639 when when will the next one be I don't
00:13:53.040 know maybe 2025 as long as we're not a
00:13:56.199 theocracy and we won't be put in prison
00:13:59.160 for Gathering or you know no who knows
00:14:03.279 what that that's a very good thing so I
00:14:05.560 mean yeah I don't know what to expect
00:14:07.839 and we'll be we'll be right along with
00:14:09.560 you talking about the things we're
00:14:11.199 seeing in the world and the the things
00:14:13.759 that we can and can't do about those uh
00:14:16.759 crazy things we might be seeing so I
00:14:18.880 guess the thing I'm going to start with
00:14:20.360 since it's January right aside from the
00:14:22.759 fact that my birthday happens to be in
00:14:24.560 January um is to talk about other
00:14:28.160 important things we can be doing right
00:14:30.160 so now is a good time to register to
00:14:31.759 vote make sure your registration is up
00:14:33.279 to date y make sure that you're dealing
00:14:35.360 with some of the things like Texas if
00:14:37.800 you'd have an outstanding ticket a
00:14:39.639 couple hundred thousand people just lost
00:14:41.360 the ability to vote because guess what
00:14:43.680 they had outstanding tickets and and
00:14:45.399 communication wasn't really good around
00:14:46.880 that and they decided the way to deal
00:14:48.279 with that was to take away people's it
00:14:52.160 600,000 people they removed the ability
00:14:55.199 to vote because they had outstanding
00:14:58.000 tickets so you know that being that's a
00:15:01.680 Texas problem but throughout the country
00:15:04.399 Now's the Time to make sure your voter
00:15:05.800 registration is up to date talk to
00:15:07.680 people about that day see if you can't
00:15:09.959 it's January we've got to ways until the
00:15:12.320 actual election comes up start taking
00:15:14.199 that day off folks if they're not going
00:15:15.680 to make it a holiday they're not going
00:15:17.320 to make it a holiday look um if they're
00:15:19.279 not going to make it a holiday go ahead
00:15:20.600 and let's let's plan something around it
00:15:22.440 make it an event to remember make it
00:15:24.680 something you participate in and turn it
00:15:26.320 into something positive you know maybe
00:15:28.800 spend most of that day inline voting
00:15:31.319 maybe you plan actually for early voting
00:15:33.600 early voting is available in your area
00:15:35.440 take a day off during that make it into
00:15:38.079 time that not only you go out there and
00:15:40.199 you put your voice and you you act on
00:15:42.959 what your ideology aligns with but you
00:15:45.759 also turn into time with your family
00:15:47.360 turn into time with your friends turn
00:15:48.680 into time for yourself do positive
00:15:51.199 things because this is going to be a
00:15:53.079 stressful year yeah I was just about to
00:15:55.639 say if your state allows early voting
00:15:58.600 take advantage of that it it normally is
00:16:01.680 so much easier than trying to wait in
00:16:03.759 line on the day of um you know I mean
00:16:07.319 many times we walk in and walk right out
00:16:09.880 you know because we we do do early
00:16:11.959 voting and and um and also remember
00:16:14.959 don't just vote for the the big you know
00:16:18.279 every four years there's a lot of [ __ ]
00:16:20.440 that happens between that that affects
00:16:23.639 the laws that are put into place for the
00:16:26.480 voting that happens every 4 for years I
00:16:29.240 mean they put judges in place they put
00:16:30.959 all sorts of stuff in place that then
00:16:32.720 they can try and manipulate in Jerry
00:16:35.000 Mander school boards yeah there's if
00:16:38.040 you're a parent or if you're someone
00:16:39.360 that cares about education the structure
00:16:41.279 of your school board is incredibly
00:16:42.639 important if you don't have kids in
00:16:43.959 school it still matters what people are
00:16:46.880 being taught and how they're being
00:16:48.079 taught and the people behind that
00:16:50.199 structure when again you come back to
00:16:52.160 States like Texas some of the things
00:16:54.000 that are being put in place that are
00:16:55.560 going to be a conversation this year are
00:16:58.160 um the chaplain in school for example
00:17:00.440 that has to be voted on at the board
00:17:02.319 level so the people on the board
00:17:04.280 obviously are a very important component
00:17:06.880 to how that comes together and I don't
00:17:08.720 know what that's going to look like I
00:17:09.880 don't know how many schools are even
00:17:11.240 going to push that but I do know from
00:17:13.760 actual evidence that I've seen schools
00:17:16.039 are reading Bible verses during school
00:17:18.480 announcements schools are doing
00:17:21.079 different things to push religion in the
00:17:23.039 school these things are happening
00:17:24.760 they're not just happening in Texas but
00:17:26.000 I know for a fact they're happening in
00:17:27.599 Texas because I have seen it um people
00:17:30.160 have shared with me videos evidence that
00:17:32.960 there are prayers being read from the
00:17:35.320 Bible during school announcement time
00:17:37.720 during school hours that is a problem
00:17:40.320 for me that is a massive problem um you
00:17:43.760 know and and I always look at schools e
00:17:45.919 even for you know people that say well I
00:17:47.880 don't have kids so it doesn't matter
00:17:50.120 well at some point hopefully you will
00:17:53.400 live long enough that the people in
00:17:55.880 school now are the ones making the
00:17:58.559 decisions and does will affect you so
00:18:01.919 yes it's not an immediate effect but it
00:18:04.159 does affect you and it does affect the
00:18:05.960 way that our youth votes when they come
00:18:09.159 of age to vote you know I mean people
00:18:11.320 can start to vote at 18 as long as they
00:18:13.840 don't change the voting age which they
00:18:15.559 were trying to do at some point um but
00:18:18.159 they can vote at 18 so it does matter
00:18:20.280 what people are being taught even if
00:18:22.480 you're not in school so um yeah just
00:18:25.880 keep those sort of things in in the back
00:18:28.440 back of your mind and so again it's
00:18:30.360 January what can you do you can talk to
00:18:32.840 your friends you can put together ride
00:18:34.520 shares because a lot of people they
00:18:36.120 can't get to voting locations you have
00:18:39.320 the time and time is is very precious we
00:18:42.200 don't just get reimbursements of time
00:18:44.360 you have the time right now to start
00:18:45.559 planning to have an actual active idea
00:18:48.400 of how you're going to do this I don't
00:18:49.559 care how you vote who you vote for
00:18:51.600 that's your choice um that's always
00:18:53.919 going to be something I support it's not
00:18:55.360 my business how you vote what I care
00:18:57.120 about is how does it affect the society
00:18:58.679 that I live in you know is it going to
00:19:00.240 create something that will be positive
00:19:01.960 for us overall or is it going to start
00:19:04.120 limiting our rights further and further
00:19:06.039 to the point where we're not talking
00:19:07.799 about history we're not talking about
00:19:09.440 people's rights we're not respecting
00:19:11.200 individuals private choices how far do
00:19:13.440 you want it to go because it's already
00:19:15.080 going to very scary uncomfortable places
00:19:17.520 h i mean we they depending on how far it
00:19:20.840 goes you know can we even have
00:19:23.000 Gatherings as as chrisan can we do the
00:19:26.080 podcast can I mean is future Satan con
00:19:29.919 even a possibility I mean these are
00:19:32.400 unfortunately serious questions at this
00:19:35.280 point these aren't like what if you know
00:19:37.159 I mean there were so many well roow will
00:19:39.679 never go away I mean we've seen this
00:19:42.400 already we've seen the [ __ ] happen the
00:19:44.760 thing that really frustrates me is a lot
00:19:46.480 of the states that participated in the
00:19:48.880 erosion of row which whether or not you
00:19:51.559 want to have seek an abortion that is a
00:19:53.840 private choice I will always support
00:19:55.640 whether or not you want to do it as long
00:19:57.320 as you decide to do it that's all that
00:19:58.960 matters to me um and when I say decide I
00:20:01.000 don't mean so and so really made me feel
00:20:02.840 like I was a worthless human being and
00:20:04.360 so I went and did it and I I regret
00:20:06.200 doing it that's not choosing that is
00:20:08.440 being coerced with negative consequences
00:20:10.760 and emotional manipulation to do
00:20:12.760 something I want you to think about how
00:20:15.320 will this look in my life how does this
00:20:17.360 affect my body my future my goals is
00:20:20.240 this something that I want is this
00:20:21.679 something I don't want there are
00:20:23.280 positives to Parenting and there are
00:20:24.679 negatives to Parenting there are
00:20:26.320 positives to abortion there are
00:20:27.600 negatives to abortion and if I told you
00:20:29.760 different I would be lying there are
00:20:31.559 emotional lifelong consequences when you
00:20:34.360 talk about both things yeah well and you
00:20:37.240 know it's yet another example of
00:20:39.520 something TST has done mhm to affect
00:20:43.159 change effect change you know the New
00:20:46.320 Mexico abortion clinic um you know it's
00:20:50.320 it's you know it's it it was it's a good
00:20:53.360 start yes um Samuel's mom
00:20:57.120 satanic abortion clinic the same sack
00:20:59.400 abortion clinic out there um it's a
00:21:02.480 really great thing and they offer
00:21:05.720 sometimes free opportunities for people
00:21:08.039 to get the care that they need and
00:21:09.679 that's not free because they don't have
00:21:11.520 to pay for it guys it's free because
00:21:13.679 they eat the cost so when you're
00:21:15.960 involved with organizations like this if
00:21:17.600 you believe in what they're doing
00:21:19.039 consider going over and and donating I'm
00:21:21.480 not telling you you have to donate but
00:21:23.000 if you like what they're doing if you
00:21:24.640 want to see it continue please consider
00:21:27.760 um just adding a small contribution to
00:21:29.840 that yeah I mean and and you know so
00:21:32.960 again
00:21:33.840 TSC as a whole as the
00:21:36.679 organization does a lot yeah I mean they
00:21:39.320 really do um we got to participate with
00:21:41.760 a group of folks from Texas and with the
00:21:43.600 leader of the protect children project
00:21:45.679 elaz uh Costas we were able to go and
00:21:49.960 join some folks to to stand up for
00:21:54.360 children's rights to stand up and
00:21:55.600 they're not young children it was a high
00:21:57.159 school but stand up for these
00:21:59.120 individuals right not to be abused
00:22:01.600 because corporal punishment whatever you
00:22:03.080 might want to say about it character
00:22:04.720 building bull crap that you've bought
00:22:06.200 into it is the rod spoil the child the
00:22:10.080 argument that is used to maintain it is
00:22:12.679 usually biblical it's not because we've
00:22:14.760 seen overwhelmingly that it provides a
00:22:17.039 structural Foundation to build
00:22:18.880 longlasting happy lives no it is proven
00:22:23.000 scientifically through therapeutic
00:22:25.440 networks through cognitive networks
00:22:27.760 through many different facets of our
00:22:30.720 actual Healthcare organizations that are
00:22:32.520 involved with children they know that
00:22:34.520 repeated abuse actually creates abusive
00:22:37.200 people it creates broken people it
00:22:38.640 creates hurt people and hurt people go
00:22:40.679 on to hurt more people so it's not
00:22:42.799 helpful to to do this to terrorize
00:22:45.760 students into doing things the way that
00:22:48.640 one or one group of individuals want
00:22:50.960 them done that's not the way that we
00:22:52.840 want to build or structure a a societal
00:22:55.960 Foundation that's not it was it was just
00:22:58.120 amazing to see people actually angry
00:23:00.679 angry that we didn't want people hitting
00:23:05.240 children I mean that was like really
00:23:08.279 that really me this is what you're angry
00:23:10.679 about but um the reason I bring up the
00:23:13.039 the abortion thing and the states that
00:23:14.960 have participated in it is because I
00:23:16.360 want you to carefully look at the fact
00:23:18.320 what states are saying that they want to
00:23:20.039 provide food for Starving Children over
00:23:21.919 this summer what states are saying that
00:23:23.679 kids deserve lunch during the school
00:23:25.520 year what states are saying that
00:23:27.200 Healthcare for um pregnant individuals
00:23:30.200 and for children matters when we're
00:23:32.880 telling them that they have to have the
00:23:34.159 children so I want you to look carefully
00:23:36.760 at those things and then I want you to
00:23:38.679 consider this other facet that's
00:23:41.279 probably going to affect you if it
00:23:42.640 doesn't involve kids social security
00:23:44.640 who's talking about taking away Social
00:23:46.279 Security money that you've paid into a
00:23:48.000 system to help ensure that eventually
00:23:50.559 you have the opportunity to retire and
00:23:52.520 to have care in your retirement so
00:23:54.960 regardless of how you vote I want you to
00:23:57.480 look at which of these ideological
00:23:59.600 alignments are actually going to help
00:24:01.440 you and maintain your life and give you
00:24:03.640 a foundational you know place to build a
00:24:06.400 life from and which ones are actually
00:24:08.480 taking away your opportunities and being
00:24:10.760 greedy and selfish and focusing on
00:24:13.240 programs that you probably don't even
00:24:14.880 want to participate in yeah I mean
00:24:16.799 there's there's some that will help and
00:24:18.799 there's some um votes that are going to
00:24:22.039 and maybe they don't harm you you know
00:24:25.039 you yourself but they harm your loved
00:24:27.159 ones m you know so um you know when you
00:24:30.320 look at what is the stance uh for
00:24:34.080 lgbtqia of of some of the ideologies
00:24:36.799 that are out there you know how is that
00:24:39.000 Community going to be treated how are
00:24:41.480 immigrant Communities going to be
00:24:43.120 treated and again these are all things
00:24:44.679 that TST as an organization works on
00:24:47.399 that you know and I know everybody
00:24:49.120 doesn't see it all the time because it's
00:24:51.240 a big organization there's lots of
00:24:52.840 things that go on in the background and
00:24:54.240 there's just not sometimes it it's like
00:24:56.760 when I used to work with code you know I
00:24:59.799 would have clients that would be like we
00:25:01.840 haven't heard anything in a month we
00:25:03.559 haven't seen anything in a month and
00:25:05.600 it's because all the code was happening
00:25:07.640 on the back end there was nothing to
00:25:09.000 show but it doesn't mean developers
00:25:11.360 weren't busting their ass doing 40 or 60
00:25:14.559 hours of coding every week it was just
00:25:16.320 there was nothing visually to show at
00:25:18.399 that time and sometimes I think
00:25:20.440 political things like this or or you
00:25:23.120 know these these type of campaigns get
00:25:26.000 stuck in that sort of rut where people
00:25:28.159 don't see something so they don't think
00:25:30.640 it's happening and it is there's a lot
00:25:33.799 of work that goes into these things and
00:25:35.440 a lot of that work is nonvisual it's
00:25:38.279 stuff that you don't see well I want to
00:25:40.360 be very careful to say I think it's
00:25:42.480 important to understand for let's just
00:25:44.120 say TST because it's the organization
00:25:45.799 that I'm most involved with it is the
00:25:47.679 religion that I'm currently actively
00:25:49.960 participating in and doing things and
00:25:51.840 you know starting at the top level you
00:25:53.320 have the executive Ministry the
00:25:54.919 executive Ministry is funding legal
00:25:56.840 battles the executive Ministry is
00:25:58.399 supporting Community initiatives the
00:26:00.679 executive Ministry is actively doing
00:26:03.080 things but we are a religion so when we
00:26:06.320 are focusing on what we're participating
00:26:08.679 in it has to align with the religious
00:26:11.880 energy and our mission statement and
00:26:14.320 what we're out there doing we cannot
00:26:16.120 just be out there doing everything for
00:26:17.799 everyone because again it has to come
00:26:20.320 back to how does this align with our
00:26:23.159 religion how does this uh show that
00:26:26.360 we're actually working to to accomplish
00:26:28.600 things for our community so things that
00:26:30.679 I feel we can do um tst's executive
00:26:34.039 Ministry is actively involved in core
00:26:36.679 cases around Reproductive Rights why
00:26:38.720 does that align with our religion again
00:26:40.480 bodily autonomy is something that we
00:26:42.039 find incredibly important uh our big
00:26:45.200 values are around individuals being able
00:26:47.080 to have the right to choose and the
00:26:49.240 right to consent so when it comes to
00:26:51.200 things like pregnancy there is not a
00:26:52.960 bigger consent than what you will be
00:26:55.279 allowed to do with your body what you
00:26:56.679 allow to happen with your body so those
00:26:58.720 court cases align very strongly with our
00:27:01.080 religious beliefs education is not where
00:27:03.720 we're aligned it's equality MH and in
00:27:07.399 maintaining a healthy educational
00:27:10.000 environment for all students so when TST
00:27:13.120 is there rest assured the reason is that
00:27:16.440 it's not a secular safe environment for
00:27:18.360 all students that are participating in
00:27:20.159 that educational facility um and for
00:27:22.640 example it'll be the Good News Club is
00:27:24.360 already there The Good News Club is
00:27:26.159 providing a certain programs to students
00:27:28.799 and it's leaving other students out y so
00:27:32.000 what TST does is they have their assc
00:27:35.080 Club the after school Satan club that
00:27:37.159 goes in and provides an alternative
00:27:39.640 they're not teaching about Satan we
00:27:42.720 don't believe in Satan so we wouldn't
00:27:44.600 teach about it but what we do believe in
00:27:46.799 is critical thinking curiosity learning
00:27:50.159 about empathy compassion scientific
00:27:53.360 theory to know how to you know test
00:27:56.320 something prove something
00:27:58.039 challenge something to to be open-minded
00:28:01.200 to different perspectives and to
00:28:02.799 challenge the things that we think about
00:28:04.159 so when we go into these schools and
00:28:06.000 when we work with these kids we're not
00:28:07.799 there doing it from oh you're going to
00:28:09.440 learn this religion and this is what's
00:28:10.799 going to happen when you die and if
00:28:12.200 you're not a great person you're going
00:28:13.480 to burn in hell we're not doing that to
00:28:15.480 people yeah uh we're just providing an
00:28:17.840 option to kids who are getting the
00:28:20.519 option to do religious stuff whether
00:28:22.279 that's what they choose that they want
00:28:23.279 to do or parents have chosen that they
00:28:24.679 want their kids to do this is another
00:28:26.360 religious thing they can participate in
00:28:28.600 that isn't really even focused on
00:28:30.360 religion it's focused on being a good
00:28:32.440 human mhm and in exploring Humanity yep
00:28:36.159 and then we have trans satanic yes
00:28:38.840 that's a newer one that we have because
00:28:40.440 you know the again bodily
00:28:42.440 autonomy every individual has the right
00:28:44.480 to tell people who they are not be told
00:28:47.120 by people who they are and to express
00:28:49.480 who they are in the way that they see
00:28:51.120 fit so the trans Community is again an
00:28:53.919 alignment with that we support all
00:28:55.960 individuals and the choices they make
00:28:57.960 around their bodies including trans care
00:29:00.679 yeah whatever that might look like the
00:29:02.080 lgbtqia community again your choice what
00:29:04.640 relationships you want to have as long
00:29:05.880 as they're consensual among adults and
00:29:08.159 they're you know healthy that's your
00:29:10.039 choice that's your right I'm never going
00:29:11.919 to understand why other people feel it's
00:29:14.120 appropriate to tell anyone how they get
00:29:16.640 to live their life how they get to live
00:29:18.360 their life what they do in their own
00:29:20.039 bedroom who they love I mean these are
00:29:22.919 things that have no effect on anybody
00:29:26.360 other than the person living it well and
00:29:28.720 I I'll say I do understand where some
00:29:30.919 individuals are either indoctrinated
00:29:32.840 into something or uncomfortable with
00:29:34.159 something to the point they feel that it
00:29:36.120 affects their life they perceive it as
00:29:38.159 affecting their life that is not the
00:29:39.519 same thing as actually affecting your
00:29:42.159 life when it affects your life is when
00:29:45.080 you are told you can't seek care because
00:29:48.279 another person deems it inappropriate M
00:29:50.799 so I could be any person that needs
00:29:53.559 something imagine if you're a man you
00:29:55.440 don't have to imagine right but imagine
00:29:57.519 you're a man and I don't feel
00:29:59.320 comfortable with you being able to use
00:30:00.519 Viagra because your ability to use
00:30:02.399 Viagra could make me have to engage in
00:30:04.240 sex that I don't want to engage in cuz
00:30:06.000 I'll feel pressured right this is a very
00:30:07.840 madeup scenario but you know imagine
00:30:09.960 that I'm in this situation where I don't
00:30:11.720 like that it makes me uncomfortable that
00:30:13.679 men are seeking Viagra because Viagra
00:30:15.880 means more sex and I'm not interested in
00:30:17.919 that and I don't think you should be
00:30:19.480 able to get Viagra so you just can't and
00:30:22.000 I'm going to Champion laws where you
00:30:24.279 know maybe in some states you might be
00:30:25.799 able to get it but for the most part you
00:30:27.519 really have to hunt for it and it's
00:30:28.799 really hard to find and you get to
00:30:30.320 suffer with that whether or not it's
00:30:32.080 because of hormonal isues outside of you
00:30:34.320 your control or whether you're
00:30:35.799 struggling with things I don't care
00:30:37.360 about that because it affects me in a
00:30:38.919 way that I don't care about your needs I
00:30:40.799 just care about how it might affect me
00:30:42.600 how would that make you feel yeah
00:30:44.960 because that's what that's what these
00:30:46.080 people are doing you know what if at
00:30:47.679 some point they're like well gender
00:30:48.880 affirming care and I hear this is
00:30:51.080 they're getting surgeries they're
00:30:52.559 getting they're getting sex chain
00:30:54.080 surgeries and number one they're not
00:30:56.000 forcing that on kids there's very strict
00:30:58.200 laws involved in the surgeries that
00:31:01.080 people are getting but do you not think
00:31:02.880 gender affirming care means plastic
00:31:04.679 surgery do you not think gender
00:31:06.120 affirming care includes things that
00:31:08.960 change one's body to amplify what they
00:31:11.799 feel interprets their gender because
00:31:14.639 those are gender affirming care
00:31:16.600 treatments I'm not telling you you can
00:31:18.519 or can't do it because that's not my
00:31:19.760 place but imagine if they're like well
00:31:21.559 everyone should look like this kind of
00:31:23.600 person and you have to get this kind of
00:31:24.960 plastic surgery right because it where
00:31:27.720 does it begin where does it end I have
00:31:29.880 no business telling anyone what they can
00:31:32.639 do with their body who they get to be
00:31:34.639 how they get to live how they have sex
00:31:36.480 if they have sex at all plenty of people
00:31:38.120 aren't interested there's tons of
00:31:39.480 asexual people out there that are
00:31:41.039 perfectly content having good
00:31:42.320 friendships with people and not engaging
00:31:44.559 in sexual activity at all for a variety
00:31:46.519 of different reasons and a variety of
00:31:47.960 different spectrums and that's perfectly
00:31:50.159 okay so where is the point where we get
00:31:52.760 to tell people what does a heterosexual
00:31:54.919 relationship have to look like you know
00:31:56.760 do you have have to do things a certain
00:31:58.279 way do you have to have so many kids
00:31:59.720 like where does this it gets so ugly it
00:32:02.679 does well in Texas you can't have more
00:32:04.320 than six sex toys so you
00:32:07.399 know again that's because Ted Cruz has
00:32:10.559 to be the largest dildo in the state of
00:32:12.240 Texas and anything that could in any way
00:32:14.519 affect that is is very uncomfortable for
00:32:16.559 him to be threatening to him so you know
00:32:18.399 we all have to be very cognizant of Ted
00:32:20.440 Cruz's issue with being compared to the
00:32:23.919 you know we have to be very
00:32:25.039 compassionate about Cru and feelings and
00:32:28.519 and and so remember boys and girls Ted
00:32:31.720 Cruz is the largest dildo in the state
00:32:33.919 of Texas because it's very important to
00:32:36.200 him yeah
00:32:39.679 um but the next example I would say is
00:32:43.080 the protect children you know again
00:32:45.679 rigns with our religious foundations
00:32:47.880 what it is that we're doing as satanists
00:32:50.320 it's not just about bodily autonomy
00:32:51.919 because yes corporal punishment affects
00:32:53.240 your bodily autonomy the right to use
00:32:54.519 the restroom why are we even still
00:32:56.279 having this conversation
00:32:58.080 I have to use restroom no you may not
00:33:00.080 you're you're going to sit there and
00:33:01.440 what pee your pants I don't understand
00:33:03.600 that you know they right not to be
00:33:05.360 bullied by Authority again arbitrary
00:33:07.679 Authority not cool it's one of the
00:33:09.200 reasons why I like that we're doing this
00:33:10.440 stuff with the 2024 we're working
00:33:12.159 together because we don't want to become
00:33:13.360 our own arbitrary Authority so we got to
00:33:15.639 work together to have a community that
00:33:17.720 is transparent and communicating so
00:33:20.120 everybody keep that up but other things
00:33:22.240 that we're doing you know it has to
00:33:24.559 align with what we're out there what are
00:33:26.559 our Rel religious beliefs what is our
00:33:28.279 foundation and what are we trying to
00:33:29.960 accomplish I don't want laws to be made
00:33:32.200 based on my beliefs my religion is not
00:33:35.000 applicable to the entire uh country
00:33:38.039 that's not tenable that's not fair but
00:33:40.240 the compassion empathy that can transfer
00:33:43.039 I can make decisions based on that so
00:33:45.360 when I'm out there doing things in
00:33:46.880 public with
00:33:49.240 representation and by the way choice is
00:33:53.080 not forcing a religious belief on people
00:33:57.000 evil no giving Choice as a law is not
00:34:01.200 forcing a religious belief saying you
00:34:04.120 have no choice because you have to do
00:34:07.639 this or you can't do this because of my
00:34:10.918 religion that is forcing your religious
00:34:14.000 belief on people giving people choice or
00:34:17.440 plurality is not forcing religious
00:34:20.599 beliefs on people who are cramming it
00:34:22.800 down their throat I just want to make
00:34:24.960 that one clear because I've heard well
00:34:27.239 you're doing the same thing no we're
00:34:29.040 offering a choice but we're also not
00:34:31.918 saying well here you know on March 15th
00:34:35.679 uh 2018 this congregation had said that
00:34:38.760 all people should have to be XYZ thing
00:34:41.639 and so we're going to Champion this law
00:34:43.879 because we really believe that that
00:34:45.320 specific thing should have to apply to
00:34:47.079 everyone that is not a thing you're
00:34:48.560 going to hear as far as I'm aware a
00:34:51.079 Satanist say and if you do I really have
00:34:53.159 a question about what the hell you mean
00:34:55.239 you're a Satanist and what is is that
00:34:57.599 you don't impose yourself on other
00:34:59.160 people yeah because again that's
00:35:00.560 removing choice but I hear it all the
00:35:02.599 time Satanism is so selfish everyone
00:35:05.280 that's involved in Satanism is so
00:35:06.880 selfish there is a selfish component to
00:35:09.240 being a Satanist I get to choose myself
00:35:12.320 I get to choose to be proud of things I
00:35:14.440 do I get to put myself before other
00:35:16.520 people however if I'm neglecting other
00:35:19.079 people if I'm being um abusive abusive
00:35:22.359 towards other people they have the right
00:35:24.440 to hold me to account for that and I am
00:35:26.880 in fact accountable because I am the
00:35:29.720 Arbiter of everything I do I'm
00:35:31.480 responsible for every action every
00:35:33.079 choice everything I say is my
00:35:35.480 responsibility there is no other person
00:35:38.119 I get to pass it off on I don't that's
00:35:40.560 my Humanity asserting itself I'm I mean
00:35:42.920 we're all humans that is a crappy crappy
00:35:45.640 crappy excuse yeah all of us have the
00:35:48.079 same damn Humanity whether or not you
00:35:49.839 choose to be personally accountable with
00:35:51.480 that humanity and the things that you do
00:35:53.280 around it that is up to you yeah yeah
00:35:56.200 you know and and again that for me
00:35:58.960 Satanism is about self-accountability it
00:36:01.880 it you know I mean that's one of the
00:36:03.480 core aspects of Satan for for Satanism
00:36:06.680 for me and um yeah it can be selfish but
00:36:09.440 selfish isn't bad you know some somehow
00:36:11.960 we've aligned that selfishness is is a
00:36:14.839 bad thing it can be but it doesn't have
00:36:17.680 to be you know anything can be a bad
00:36:20.760 thing if you abuse it um in excess yeah
00:36:24.240 I I talk to a lot of people on on a
00:36:26.240 pretty routine basis and one of the
00:36:27.920 things I think that bothers me the most
00:36:29.599 is people don't feel safe to share when
00:36:32.920 things are going wrong and I think
00:36:34.720 that's a big problem in our society uh
00:36:37.480 we're taught to shoulder our problems
00:36:40.079 our burdens our issues and to man up
00:36:43.240 again one of those toxic masculine
00:36:44.839 things I hear people say to men um you
00:36:46.880 know to just nut up or shut up kind of
00:36:49.000 thing all of us have the same sort of
00:36:51.760 things that we're struggling with and I
00:36:53.200 I run into it a lot and when I say oh my
00:36:55.119 gosh you know I was there last month I
00:36:56.800 was deeply depressed I was struggling
00:36:58.400 with things I felt like crap I didn't
00:37:00.000 think there was a way out of it and you
00:37:01.599 know I know where you're coming from I
00:37:02.920 don't know the exact same struggles
00:37:04.200 you're going through but you're
00:37:05.280 definitely not alone in that and I'm
00:37:06.720 really sorry that you're there right now
00:37:08.599 it shocks me how many people feel like
00:37:10.960 nobody else ever stopped to say that to
00:37:12.720 them yeah I mean you had uh an example
00:37:15.440 yesterday where one of our kids friends
00:37:18.720 mom came to the door and you just were
00:37:21.440 like hey are you okay and people are
00:37:23.680 just like you know nobody ask anybody
00:37:26.280 anymore
00:37:27.400 it's like you know there is this huge
00:37:29.839 lack of compassion and empathy I guess
00:37:32.720 you know and and that's kind of ironic
00:37:35.040 hearing that from me because
00:37:37.359 I'm not the most Compass you paint
00:37:40.160 yourself that way a lot but I think you
00:37:43.040 have there's that selfishness thing
00:37:45.040 again right where you're selective with
00:37:46.720 how you focus your energy yes um I don't
00:37:49.599 think it's wrong if you're an individual
00:37:52.000 who just doesn't feel comfortable
00:37:54.040 interacting with people at that level
00:37:55.400 until you know them in a way that it is
00:37:57.720 uh something that you feel that is worth
00:37:59.480 your time and energy I don't think
00:38:01.200 that's wrong um we just see it
00:38:03.079 differently where I I personally enjoy
00:38:05.599 see that's that's selfish right it's not
00:38:07.760 just selfless I personally enjoy being
00:38:10.200 there for other people I mean it does
00:38:11.760 benefit the other person too but I find
00:38:14.079 it enjoyable yes to to relate to people
00:38:17.119 to hear what people have going on to sit
00:38:19.640 with them and to just check in I know
00:38:23.200 and it's weird right I'll go into the
00:38:25.440 grocery store and I remember were like
00:38:26.920 several different people that I interact
00:38:28.400 with on a routine basis that work there
00:38:30.280 and even my kids have been like why do
00:38:32.000 you do that how do you do that and well
00:38:34.400 they're people you know people like to
00:38:36.000 be seen noticed and heard and it's it
00:38:38.680 doesn't cost me anything to be like oh
00:38:40.359 hey I know this person hi so and so
00:38:42.160 how's your whoever you mentioned last
00:38:44.319 time how have you been what's going on
00:38:45.880 in your life it's crazy to me how many
00:38:48.599 people don't do that and how shocking it
00:38:51.000 is when someone actually takes like an
00:38:53.400 interest in other people's lives yeah
00:38:55.839 and like you said I'm sort of the
00:38:57.520 opposite end of that but when I'm
00:38:59.839 friends with somebody you know when
00:39:01.839 somebody breaks through that friendship
00:39:03.800 barrier with me then I am probably one
00:39:07.520 of the best most loyal friends that I
00:39:10.760 mean you know hey where do we need to
00:39:12.560 bury this body sort of sort of thing we
00:39:15.040 don't no but but point taken yeah I I
00:39:19.000 mean so yes I am I am very caring for
00:39:23.760 the select people that I sort L into my
00:39:27.359 bubble and yes that's selfish of me but
00:39:30.920 I have my reasons for that and it's just
00:39:32.800 my personal could be made your version
00:39:35.319 of selfishness is no different than my
00:39:37.839 version of selfishness we just have
00:39:39.520 different focuses on how we choose to
00:39:41.880 expand our energy and how it affects us
00:39:44.599 so we're both making what one could deem
00:39:46.440 a selfish Choice uh with the way that we
00:39:48.640 choose to spend our time and the way
00:39:49.920 that we choose to spend our energy it
00:39:51.680 just the way I tend to like to do it is
00:39:54.560 beneficial to other people in a way that
00:39:56.480 yours isn't always necessarily um at
00:39:58.839 least it's perceived that way so there's
00:40:00.319 nothing wrong with either you know it
00:40:01.960 comes down again to Choice how do I
00:40:03.680 choose to spend my energy my effort my
00:40:06.160 time and we both just happen to have
00:40:08.079 different ways we like to do that and so
00:40:10.160 it comes back to where we started here
00:40:11.839 we are in January this news came out and
00:40:14.560 people didn't choose to focus their
00:40:15.880 energy on making it into well that's
00:40:17.880 awful and you're horrible and what about
00:40:20.119 me I saw a lot of people saying okay
00:40:22.240 cool what does that mean what can I do
00:40:24.560 how do I then okay St con not going to
00:40:26.800 happen I still like to hang out with
00:40:28.560 some folks I'm still going to plan to do
00:40:30.240 that but what does it mean for us to
00:40:32.200 connect as a community how do we best
00:40:34.560 serve the greater community and what
00:40:36.079 we're doing so I think that's a great
00:40:37.760 thing all of you can take that and run
00:40:39.520 with it and do different things or
00:40:40.880 nothing at all whatever the case may be
00:40:43.520 because we all have our right to decide
00:40:45.680 yep um but then politics same kind of
00:40:48.280 thing I hear a lot of religious leaders
00:40:50.440 tell people how to vote where to vote
00:40:52.920 why to vote I'm not going to do that I
00:40:54.640 don't even believe Democrats or rep
00:40:56.280 Republicans are good um you know as as a
00:40:58.920 whole there's good parts of it but
00:41:00.599 there's crappy Republicans and crappy
00:41:02.520 Democrats there's you want to go liberal
00:41:04.760 you want to go conserve it whatever
00:41:06.440 there's crappy aspects to all of it I
00:41:08.319 don't love the system as it is but what
00:41:10.319 are we trying to accomplish how does it
00:41:12.359 serve selfishly our future goals how
00:41:14.920 does it selfishly serve the people we
00:41:16.440 love how does it maybe you're not seeing
00:41:18.400 it that way what are we trying to
00:41:19.839 accomplish people yeah and for me
00:41:22.240 selfishly for
00:41:24.560 2024 I you know there's two people on
00:41:28.079 the ballot really yes there might be
00:41:29.920 third parties and stuff like that maybe
00:41:31.760 maybe the Supreme Court's going to pop
00:41:33.319 up and surprise us I don't think so is
00:41:36.079 that my does my sarcastic voice come
00:41:37.760 through good there there's realistically
00:41:40.440 going to be two people on the ballot you
00:41:42.119 know yes there will be third parties and
00:41:43.720 all this but my selfish goal for 2024 is
00:41:47.560 not to have a tyrannical authoritarian
00:41:52.119 take over America and so all my energy
00:41:55.880 will go even if I don't necessarily like
00:41:58.680 the other person I think they yeah they
00:42:00.640 probably could have picked a better
00:42:02.760 person but you know what this is the
00:42:04.720 choice that we have do we want an
00:42:07.240 authoritarian dictatorship that's going
00:42:10.000 to let the Christian nationalists
00:42:12.319 basically take America and turn it into
00:42:14.079 a theocracy or do we want to maintain
00:42:16.720 our freedom and that's really the choice
00:42:18.920 for me yeah I I prefer Freedom do I
00:42:21.760 think that we could start putting better
00:42:23.480 people on these ballots yeah I
00:42:25.680 absolutely do do I think we should all
00:42:27.040 work together to help find better people
00:42:29.319 to be on these ballots absolutely yes I
00:42:31.520 do do I think there should be options
00:42:33.400 for younger people people more involved
00:42:35.359 with their Community with their society
00:42:37.319 do I think that there should be new
00:42:38.520 ideas happening um people that are more
00:42:40.440 in touch with where we are today do I
00:42:42.640 think there should be an age limit like
00:42:44.280 where it's you know you've aged out yes
00:42:48.040 absolutely and okay I I agree with the
00:42:51.280 fundamental idea of what you're trying
00:42:52.400 to say is some people just are
00:42:53.520 completely they're just at a point in
00:42:54.960 their life where they're just not able
00:42:56.480 to participate or comprehend things at
00:42:58.839 the level that the majority of society
00:43:00.760 is living however there are younger
00:43:03.119 people that I've seen that are
00:43:04.319 incredibly incredibly in touch with it
00:43:06.480 and just so knowledgeable and so just
00:43:09.920 good options for leadership and I have
00:43:11.880 equally seen much older people that are
00:43:14.400 just as passionate and Lively and just
00:43:17.720 yes they've their body is aged but
00:43:20.280 mentally they have an elastic useful
00:43:23.160 curious mind and they're still doing
00:43:24.920 things that is very much in touch with
00:43:26.480 the majority of people so I hesitate to
00:43:28.760 put an absolute cap young or old I do
00:43:31.559 understand that for youth there is a
00:43:33.480 point for even myself you know when I
00:43:35.440 was in my early 20s where I was
00:43:37.119 sometimes an idiot and and just being an
00:43:39.400 idiot was just part of the journey to
00:43:41.760 figuring out who the hell I was and I
00:43:43.119 didn't always make the best decisions
00:43:45.119 and I think that that's sort of
00:43:46.240 universal but it's not absolute like
00:43:48.240 nothing is a monolith as far as age I
00:43:50.559 don't think it's absolutely you know
00:43:52.359 20year olds are all irresponsible
00:43:54.400 psychos that are you know essentially
00:43:56.240 just self-centered there is a lot of
00:43:58.559 that but it's not every person so I
00:44:00.599 hesitate to say like age wise there
00:44:03.079 should be an absolute number I really do
00:44:05.000 um for those reasons however I do think
00:44:07.520 that there should be some kind of
00:44:09.880 guideline there should be some kind of
00:44:11.359 training there should be some kind of
00:44:12.920 process where people understand the
00:44:15.119 politics they're getting into understand
00:44:17.040 Global Affairs again you can't be
00:44:19.000 everything to everyone but I do think we
00:44:21.160 could as a society do a much better job
00:44:23.720 preparing people to participate in this
00:44:26.440 from the voting concept all the way to
00:44:28.640 being a candidate I think there's so
00:44:30.720 much more we can all do in schools as
00:44:33.720 parents as Community to engage with one
00:44:36.640 another and to create a more Equitable
00:44:38.760 Society it's never going to be perfect I
00:44:41.000 would love to say that it will I don't
00:44:42.480 see that happening in my lifetime it's
00:44:44.319 never going to be equal we're never all
00:44:45.839 going to be kumay a you know with a
00:44:47.800 perfect like life like the Federation
00:44:50.400 which again wasn't perfect but you know
00:44:52.240 where we have different ways of living
00:44:54.000 what I I would like to see as all work
00:44:56.359 to do is from the bottom up Community
00:44:58.640 level all the way up to the the White
00:45:00.280 House how do we work together what does
00:45:02.760 it look like how can we respect each
00:45:04.839 other's privacy boundaries choices and
00:45:07.559 still just live our own lives without
00:45:09.520 going gosh what is Becky doing in her
00:45:11.160 bedroom I think it's affecting me
00:45:13.079 somehow I I feel uncomfortable because
00:45:15.720 you know what you're not in Becky's
00:45:17.240 bedroom and if you are well that's a
00:45:18.720 different situation yes and hopefully
00:45:21.640 you consented because that's the most
00:45:23.359 important part about being in Becky's
00:45:25.119 bedroom yeah so I mean no one the
00:45:28.079 government doesn't desol deserve to make
00:45:30.680 our private healthcare decisions whether
00:45:32.440 you're a man using fagra or you're a
00:45:35.079 woman seeking abortion care whether
00:45:37.079 you're a trans individual working to
00:45:39.200 transition whether you're a you know
00:45:41.760 child not wanting to be spanked and
00:45:44.319 these are all things that are affected
00:45:45.880 the government should not be telling you
00:45:47.800 the history you get to learn it should
00:45:49.359 be open to learning and the option
00:45:51.599 should be there to understand I'm sorry
00:45:53.720 Nikki Haley but there is a very def
00:45:56.040 ative relation cause wise for slavery
00:45:59.319 and the freaking Civil War and there
00:46:00.920 should be no question when States
00:46:03.119 literally wrote in the reason why that
00:46:05.559 they were withdrawing from their
00:46:07.200 agreement to be part of the United
00:46:08.319 States was we don't feel that it's fair
00:46:10.160 for you to oppress Us by not allowing us
00:46:11.920 to oppress other people with slavery
00:46:14.119 they literally explained it that way
00:46:16.680 this is not a trick question slavery
00:46:20.000 that was a gimme I I mean was a real
00:46:22.640 fundamental reason why the Civil War
00:46:25.079 happened and the way we address that is
00:46:27.200 by teaching people the part slavery
00:46:29.480 played the reasons why people were
00:46:31.319 fundamentally opposed to it it's not a
00:46:33.960 tradition versus no the the fact is no
00:46:37.079 one has the right to own another human
00:46:38.520 being and there should be no question
00:46:40.440 about it so we have to teach people why
00:46:42.839 that's not normal safe okay completely
00:46:46.920 throws away their autonomy so again when
00:46:49.240 we're teaching history we have to be
00:46:51.520 honest and we have to be reflective it's
00:46:53.760 not all people of one speci specific
00:46:56.280 category should now always feel sorry
00:46:58.680 and and want to make amends for that we
00:47:01.000 can't fix what other people did but we
00:47:03.359 can make Act of change to prevent
00:47:06.200 from yeah that's the most important part
00:47:09.359 is and we're all obligated to that
00:47:11.079 whether it's the way women have been
00:47:12.359 treated historically the way minorities
00:47:14.280 have been treated historically the way
00:47:16.160 that we literally stole an entire you
00:47:18.599 know country from people that were
00:47:20.359 already living on the damn land and
00:47:23.359 still kind of ignore the fact that
00:47:24.880 they've been relegated to areas that
00:47:26.520 they weren't even necessarily from and
00:47:28.640 they lost identity and history and many
00:47:31.760 things because of that and yes I'm
00:47:33.200 talking about indigenous people um the
00:47:35.319 fact that there are still crimes
00:47:36.520 happening that are very specific towards
00:47:38.720 all of these groups uh the fact that
00:47:40.559 people still are angry that white and
00:47:42.960 black people can be married or gay
00:47:44.280 people can be married the fact that
00:47:45.520 that's still something that makes people
00:47:46.800 mad enough that they want to do
00:47:48.200 something to take away that right these
00:47:50.079 are things we have to recognize don't
00:47:52.599 benefit us as a society we have to work
00:47:54.480 to understand we're all going to going
00:47:55.800 to do things we don't all necessarily
00:47:57.200 like this is where again the tenants
00:47:58.800 come in we all have the right to be
00:48:00.400 offended it's fine to offend people it's
00:48:03.359 not fine to trample on their individual
00:48:05.960 rights to take away their consent and to
00:48:08.319 decide for them what they can and can't
00:48:09.920 do with their bodies yeah so okay I'm
00:48:13.200 going to take a breath now I got a
00:48:14.960 little worked up there okay just a
00:48:17.200 little bit worked up on that one fine
00:48:19.839 and all that came from thank you for
00:48:22.400 being a good Community when the
00:48:24.720 announcement for Satan con being
00:48:27.319 cancelled came out yes but now it's the
00:48:30.880 fun part now that we know and we know
00:48:33.359 that it's because we'd all like to focus
00:48:34.800 on working together whatever that might
00:48:36.880 look like for you how do we do that
00:48:39.000 let's start by reaching out to the folks
00:48:40.880 that let us know and see what they want
00:48:42.720 from us what they need from us what we
00:48:44.160 can do to make that happen how can we
00:48:46.800 help yeah and if that means like uh you
00:48:49.640 go poke your congregation heads and you
00:48:51.319 go hey I saw the thing and um I'm not
00:48:54.200 sure what that means and I'm not sure I
00:48:55.640 really want to do a lot but you know
00:48:57.160 maybe can you explain what that might
00:48:59.000 look like hey congregation heads what do
00:49:01.280 you think that might look like um you
00:49:03.280 know cuz I'm thinking about it uh how do
00:49:05.480 I make it where we're doing more in our
00:49:07.599 community and then using that to kind of
00:49:09.480 ripple effect into the greater uh you
00:49:12.040 know executive Ministry back at
00:49:13.559 headquarters so what are we doing to
00:49:15.520 kind of overlap with one another to
00:49:17.960 fundamentally help to bring us all
00:49:19.760 together yeah so again and you know
00:49:23.720 we're we're probably coming up on our
00:49:25.760 our hour here um yes if you've enjoyed
00:49:28.920 this rant of you know many
00:49:31.520 things you know which actually I didn't
00:49:34.280 I I was like you know we might struggle
00:49:36.440 to get an hour out of this one um you
00:49:38.960 know because it is a at at the top level
00:49:42.599 uh thank you for being civil you know
00:49:45.559 thank you for yes thank you to the
00:49:47.400 community to the community for the way
00:49:50.680 that you've reacted to what was probably
00:49:54.280 disappointing news
00:49:56.160 um you know and how can we help and how
00:49:58.599 can we continue to unify you know TST um
00:50:04.160 you know with inside of the organization
00:50:06.559 so that there is less infighting and yes
00:50:08.920 you know even when I've talked about
00:50:10.319 infighting it it it isn't only like I
00:50:12.839 said it's not only about cosos versus
00:50:15.640 TST and all that there's infighting with
00:50:18.079 inside of TST that is pointless
00:50:20.160 bickering personally the CST or whatever
00:50:23.920 satanic organization that might but that
00:50:25.839 tends to be the biggest too there is no
00:50:27.839 infighting in my opinion there's nothing
00:50:30.040 to fight about you get to be cosos sist
00:50:32.520 we get to be TST Satanist we get to do
00:50:34.480 our things I'm not engaging you in an
00:50:36.200 argument I'm happy that you're
00:50:38.160 fundamentally pleased with what it is
00:50:39.640 that you are out there doing and the way
00:50:41.480 Satanism works for you I'm thrilled
00:50:43.280 actually um and I just ask that you
00:50:45.319 respect that I'm also happy with the
00:50:47.280 things that I'm doing and the Satanism
00:50:49.640 that I have and the way that I express
00:50:51.319 my Satanism and guess what within TST
00:50:54.400 other people have different ways that
00:50:55.680 they do that and within Satanism there's
00:50:57.799 more than just those two things and I'm
00:50:59.480 thrilled again just follow the two
00:51:01.359 things respect consent respect bodily
00:51:04.160 autonomy do not trample on people's
00:51:06.240 rights it's very very simple if you're
00:51:07.960 doing those things I literally couldn't
00:51:09.720 care less what you're doing and because
00:51:11.599 it's your business it's not my business
00:51:13.799 yeah exactly that so with that once
00:51:17.280 again I do want to offer a huge thank
00:51:19.640 you to everyone and and do see what we
00:51:22.760 can do you know let's let's see what
00:51:26.040 comes out from em over I I don't even
00:51:28.799 know if anything's coming out you know
00:51:30.440 again I haven't talked to anybody um you
00:51:33.160 know and I'll even throw this out there
00:51:34.640 lots of people have done it before you
00:51:36.160 have questions that you'd like to pass
00:51:37.760 on but you don't feel like you want to
00:51:39.079 be the one to do it you want to figure
00:51:40.680 out and and have us talk about it
00:51:42.400 another time send us your questions let
00:51:45.160 us know what you'd like to find out I'll
00:51:47.200 reach out to em and I'll see if I can
00:51:49.400 get a dialogue and I can share with you
00:51:51.520 guys you know what it is that they're
00:51:53.319 trying to convey with this and what it
00:51:55.200 is that we're trying to accomplish so
00:51:57.160 you know what I understand and respect
00:51:58.760 for some people that type of
00:51:59.799 Confrontation makes them uncomfortable
00:52:01.880 let us do it for you yeah yeah I have no
00:52:05.839 problem um doing that you know people
00:52:09.000 are always they they I I get asked a lot
00:52:12.200 well what if you make somebody upset and
00:52:15.119 my answer is always the same I am me and
00:52:17.720 if that upsets somebody I'm sorry for
00:52:20.160 them I expect that you know everyone's
00:52:22.799 not always going to see eye to eye
00:52:24.000 that's just a given yep uh it's we don't
00:52:26.040 see eye ey yeah we've had plenty of
00:52:28.760 heated discussions between one another
00:52:31.119 um but the beautiful thing is we talk
00:52:33.480 about it and then you know even if we
00:52:35.200 still don't agree we can agree that it's
00:52:36.960 fine for us to have those separate
00:52:38.799 whatever we can agree to disagree on
00:52:40.520 things and sometimes that's the way the
00:52:42.079 conversation ends I see the way that you
00:52:43.920 see it I see it differently MH and
00:52:46.359 that's why we invite so many people on
00:52:47.880 the show because uh you know we don't
00:52:51.000 always appeal to everybody and there's
00:52:52.520 things that we don't always convey and
00:52:54.079 so I love having other people share
00:52:55.920 their perspectives because they're going
00:52:57.440 to reach people in a way I just can't so
00:52:59.880 that's just the way it is but you know I
00:53:01.319 appreciate you all making it to the end
00:53:02.559 of this crazy podcast episode and I look
00:53:06.440 forward to being able to hang out with
00:53:08.280 you guys again very soon well wherever
00:53:11.319 you are good night good day good morning
00:53:14.079 good evening and hail satan!
00:53:19.280 [Music]