June 16, 2023

Ep.1: Starting With Pride

Ep.1: Starting With Pride

In the inaugural episode of Satanists Nextdoor, hosted by Lilin T. Lavin and Tommy Lavin, the hosts proudly celebrate Pride Month and bring the unique perspectives of The Satanic Temple's Tenets into the conversation. With passion and determination, they address crucial issues, taking a stand against the absurdity of anti-trans laws, challenging bigotry, and emphasizing the vital importance of unconditional love from parents towards their children, irrespective of their identities. The podcast offers a thought-provoking dialogue filled with compassion and wit. Join Lilin T. Lavin and Tommy Lavin in this compelling discussion that aims to challenge perspectives, promote understanding, and contribute to a more inclusive and accepting society.

In our first episode, we proudly celebrate Pride for Pride Month and tackle important issues head-on. Join us as we passionately discuss the absurdity of anti-trans laws, challenge bigotry, and emphasize the importance of unconditional love from parents towards their children, no matter who they are. Get ready for a thought-provoking conversation filled with compassion, wit, and a firm belief in equality.

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# Satanists Nextdoor Podcast
# Episode 1: Starting With Pride


00:00:01.400 welcome dear listeners to Satanist next
00:00:03.560 door we're your host Lilan LaVin and
00:00:06.040 Tommy LaVin whether you're an opened
00:00:08.240 curious on licker or fellow Satanist
00:00:10.040 seeking camaraderie our goal is to share
00:00:12.160 our personal experiences and delve into
00:00:14.240 the intricate tapestry of Satanism in
00:00:16.119 our daily lives occasionally inviting
00:00:18.279 other guests to share their unique
00:00:19.640 perspectives leaving no pentagram
00:00:21.560 unturned we'll explore how our beliefs
00:00:23.760 shape our views on society dive into
00:00:25.680 struggles and triumphs we've encountered
00:00:27.519 and reveal the humanity that unites us
00:00:29.439 all so grab your favorite chalice and
00:00:32.079 join us on this captivating Journey
00:00:34.079 Satan's next door is ready to peel back
00:00:36.040 the curtain and offer you a glimpse into
00:00:37.760 our world one captivating episode at a
00:00:40.800 [Music]
00:00:58.920 time
00:01:00.330 [Music]
00:01:02.160 hello listeners and welcome to the very
00:01:04.720 first episode of Satanist next door and
00:01:08.400 since we are kicking off our episode in
00:01:11.000 June um month of Pride we thought that
00:01:14.280 the first episode should focus on Pride
00:01:17.439 lgbtq plus community and um you know the
00:01:21.200 things that are actively going on we
00:01:24.079 have our pride flag up in front of our
00:01:26.640 house and I guarantee you that
00:01:29.079 thing is not coming down exactly it is
00:01:31.920 it is staying up and you know again I
00:01:34.680 say that because we live in a very
00:01:36.600 conservative neighborhood um you know
00:01:39.240 we've got Trump flags and like that
00:01:41.439 everywhere so not currently I mean they
00:01:44.000 are in people's backyards but they were
00:01:46.399 everywhere they moved them to the
00:01:48.360 backyard so you could still look at it
00:01:50.759 but you know not quite feel as
00:01:52.159 embarrassed when they're drinking with
00:01:53.200 their friends they can sit together and
00:01:54.920 lament over the times when Trump was
00:01:57.000 great yeah um you know but there's so so
00:02:00.960 because of that and and so far I I would
00:02:03.680 say on our nightly walks and this is
00:02:05.640 really kind of sad I see Sports Flags I
00:02:08.080 see Republican Flags I see a lot of
00:02:10.280 American flags which that's fine um you
00:02:12.840 know but I think we are the only house
00:02:15.280 with an lgbtq flag currently that we've
00:02:18.440 seen it's a pretty decent sized
00:02:19.879 neighborhood so I won't say I've looked
00:02:21.360 at everyone's house but unfortunately no
00:02:24.040 I don't think I've seen any other ones
00:02:25.519 yeah so I am kind of waiting on the note
00:02:27.599 from the homeowners association um and
00:02:30.920 I'm going to but we have a plan yes I'm
00:02:33.200 going to take walk around and take
00:02:35.200 pictures of the hundred other houses
00:02:37.120 with other flags on it and tell them
00:02:39.599 when those flags come down then we'll
00:02:41.440 talk about ours I hate to be preemptive
00:02:43.319 because we assume that it will happen
00:02:45.599 but my my hope is that it will not in
00:02:47.800 fact happen and we'll be very pleasantly
00:02:49.879 surprised so Suburban conservative
00:02:52.000 neighborhood outside of Houston
00:02:54.159 definitely concerned about it but we'll
00:02:57.040 we'll report back at the end of the
00:02:58.280 month and uh hopefully it's a big
00:03:00.560 nothing bger yep yep yep so but yeah
00:03:03.599 let's talk about let's talk about well
00:03:05.519 of course the Stonewall riots right you
00:03:07.159 can't start talking about Pride without
00:03:08.840 talking about how in June in uh you know
00:03:11.959 1969 we had the stone wall Stonewall
00:03:15.280 riots and that's what kicked this all
00:03:16.920 off and it's kind of disheartening in a
00:03:19.000 way to recognize why that all happened
00:03:21.879 and where we still are at this point in
00:03:24.599 time yeah know we I I always kind of say
00:03:27.760 this in in you know we made so much
00:03:31.360 progress forward and then these last few
00:03:33.959 years it it's been backward you know
00:03:37.280 especially since 2016 but even after
00:03:40.159 then it's just this Snowball Effect of
00:03:42.840 going backwards and attacking and fear
00:03:45.720 mongering and and you know once you know
00:03:49.000 like you you you had mentioned at one
00:03:50.959 time while we were talking is you know
00:03:52.560 once they got rid of roie way they knew
00:03:55.360 mhm they knew it was open see well they
00:03:57.959 felt I feel like they I hate doing the
00:04:00.560 they thing I feel like people that are
00:04:02.519 focused on going after individuals in in
00:04:05.840 marginalized communities felt more
00:04:07.680 confident once they had attacked women's
00:04:10.439 Liberation women's rights where they're
00:04:12.200 saying you know your bodily autonomy is
00:04:13.920 now uh fair game you know they're trying
00:04:16.199 to get into privacy all these things
00:04:18.478 they they feel a lot more confident now
00:04:20.120 that they've shown that they can affect
00:04:22.120 change in their Direction and I do feel
00:04:24.320 like now they've pushed the narrative
00:04:26.759 towards the the lgbtq plus community
00:04:29.880 especially the trans Community because
00:04:32.880 they they have a good uh like hook line
00:04:36.039 on it with oh they're they grooming kids
00:04:38.440 they're pedophiles they're mutilating
00:04:40.800 children's genitals all these horrible
00:04:43.520 things that they keep repeating over and
00:04:45.280 over again which is misinformation and
00:04:47.120 and absolutely outright lies yeah and I
00:04:49.840 feel like that whole conversation um
00:04:53.280 kind of started with the bathrooms you
00:04:55.120 know it was four or so years ago maybe
00:04:58.240 that it probably longer
00:05:00.520 getting older so you know years kind of
00:05:02.720 mush together but yeah I mean that was
00:05:04.759 like the big thing that started this big
00:05:07.960 oh you know we we've got an in here and
00:05:10.600 they they went after the whole bathroom
00:05:12.840 sort of thing which is just stupid as
00:05:15.240 hell because honestly if you look at a
00:05:18.039 trans man do you do you really want a
00:05:21.199 trans man going into the women's
00:05:23.360 bathroom if you know think about Sunday
00:05:26.199 morning church you're there you're with
00:05:28.400 your family your wife everybody goes
00:05:31.160 into the bathroom and then all of a
00:05:32.800 sudden this dude walks into the bathroom
00:05:35.039 you're going to lose your but
00:05:36.520 that's exactly what you asked the
00:05:38.840 community not even asked told told well
00:05:41.919 it's weird to me because no offense like
00:05:44.000 the trans man thing definitely they they
00:05:46.280 don't harp on it the same as trans women
00:05:48.960 and they're so ardently focused on well
00:05:51.759 these these aren't women and they don't
00:05:53.360 belong and blah blah blah okay so what
00:05:55.600 are you saying where would you prefer
00:05:56.880 them to go you want to put them in the
00:05:58.639 men's room so so that you can what abuse
00:06:01.919 them I don't I don't understand what it
00:06:04.039 is that they're asking for because I
00:06:05.680 don't know about you but when you look
00:06:07.520 at some of these trans women they
00:06:08.960 they're gorgeous right they don't want
00:06:10.599 to be in the men don't even want to be
00:06:12.280 in the men's restroom and then you and
00:06:14.440 then you've got these really incredibly
00:06:16.240 handsome trans men and are you saying
00:06:18.639 you'd rather have them with your
00:06:19.800 girlfriend in the bathroom because maybe
00:06:21.800 you want to double think that because
00:06:23.120 these are relatively attractive guys
00:06:25.479 that we got walking around and you know
00:06:27.479 maybe they'll have a second thought
00:06:28.759 about you know what they're involved
00:06:30.400 with but well and and again I kind of go
00:06:32.680 back to what the hell are all of these
00:06:35.639 conservative Christians doing in the
00:06:37.599 bathroom I mean because to me the
00:06:39.720 bathroom is you go into the bathroom you
00:06:42.160 use the bathroom and you leave and and
00:06:45.639 you know and every trans person I've
00:06:48.240 ever known and some have come into the
00:06:50.919 bathroom with me they went into a stall
00:06:55.120 the bathroom I went to the you know it
00:06:57.319 it's it's weird it's like what do you
00:06:59.479 all think happen is it like I just
00:07:01.879 wonder what's going on in their mind is
00:07:03.520 it like they think like the door opens
00:07:05.440 and it's
00:07:06.479 like I mean I would be okay with that if
00:07:09.520 that was the reality you know there a
00:07:12.520  party in the bathroom you know
00:07:14.720 everybody's in there doing blow and
00:07:16.919  whoa we were not talking about
00:07:19.400 that time period
00:07:21.520 sir no but I mean that happens in
00:07:23.720 regular bathrooms anyway but but I don't
00:07:25.960 know what it is exactly you've got the
00:07:27.560 narrative that there's these bearded men
00:07:29.960 looking over this doll at your children
00:07:31.960 what the hell are you talking about
00:07:33.440 number one most trans women I know
00:07:35.720 aren't out there with beards most I mean
00:07:37.960 if you do you rock it that's your thing
00:07:40.280 but most trans women are women they look
00:07:42.879 like women if you're not looking for
00:07:45.479 weird details you're not normal I mean
00:07:47.800 even if you are looking for weird
00:07:49.199 details they don't really look different
00:07:50.919 and I think that's what trips them up is
00:07:52.800 because you have people that are maybe a
00:07:54.400 bit more on the gender fluid side of
00:07:56.240 things and they can't quite tell and
00:07:58.879 that's when they freak out because oh I
00:08:00.440 think I finally found one of those trans
00:08:02.599 folks in the bathroom and they lose
00:08:04.479 their only to find out it is
00:08:06.240 actually a a female trying to use the
00:08:08.639 restroom um and then they they end up
00:08:11.199 there was a whole situation I think it
00:08:12.599 was a movie theater or a restaurant
00:08:14.720 don't quote me on that it was one of the
00:08:16.039 other and a very gender fluid woman very
00:08:19.560 gender fluid though biological female in
00:08:22.000 the restroom with their friends and Anna
00:08:25.360 Karen I'm not trying to Trope but Anna
00:08:27.599 Karen just immediately loses their mind
00:08:29.919 you don't belong in here you don't
00:08:31.479 belong in this restroom and the person's
00:08:33.200 like but I I am a female like this is
00:08:35.599 the correct you're not you don't belong
00:08:37.399 here blah blah blah and this is like
00:08:39.320 where they wanted this to go right the
00:08:41.279 uncomfortable encounter they're going to
00:08:43.000 force people to I don't know pee outs I
00:08:45.360 don't know what it is they want from
00:08:46.920 folks honestly do they not go to the
00:08:49.120 fair do they not go out to Parks do they
00:08:51.640 not use like the unisex restrooms that
00:08:53.839 everyone's been using for I don't know a
00:08:55.680 portapotty doesn't have a man or woman
00:08:57.480 out front you know you just go in and
00:08:59.000 use the damn bathroom and I I don't know
00:09:01.680 what is it that they think is happening
00:09:03.920 I'm going on the bathroom thing way too
00:09:05.440 long but yeah I I did challenge you know
00:09:08.360 I kind of challenged this on on Twitter
00:09:10.640 at at one point I was like the and
00:09:13.079 I actually asked what what is it you
00:09:16.360 want them to do I I I mean you know
00:09:19.959 what's your solution and their answer
00:09:22.519 was you know the what what you would
00:09:24.760 expect it's a shitty answer it's like
00:09:26.760 well nature can take I don't really care
00:09:29.640 what they do well obviously you do care
00:09:32.160 what they do or we wouldn't be here you
00:09:34.839 know and it's like so yeah I mean yeah I
00:09:38.480 guess we kind of went off on the
00:09:39.480 bathroom tangent for a little but but
00:09:41.240 the reason why is it seems like that's
00:09:43.839 where this this new attack narrative
00:09:47.160 sort of started that's one of yeah and
00:09:49.360 then the whole groomer thing which I
00:09:51.279 mean I could go off on some stuff there
00:09:54.440 but grooming isn't happening at drag
00:09:56.560 shows or drag Story Hour or you know
00:09:59.480 these are not the areas that we have to
00:10:01.880 worry about I can count like I have not
00:10:04.360 enough fingers and toes to discuss all
00:10:06.399 the sexual impropriety happening at
00:10:08.920 churches and police officers and youth
00:10:12.760 groups and I mean but when you look at
00:10:14.959 it there's it seems like there's another
00:10:16.800 bunch of them every day and it's coming
00:10:19.120 out of unfortunately churches and I'm
00:10:21.160 not going to say it's every church I'm
00:10:22.440 not going to say all religious people
00:10:24.079 are are pedophiles but there's a
00:10:25.839 flipping freck ton of pedophiles
00:10:28.320 apparently hanging out in the churches
00:10:30.680 well there's enough of them that the the
00:10:33.600 hash not a drag queen is is almost
00:10:36.800 always either trending or it's really
00:10:39.279 easy it pulls right up for me when I go
00:10:41.160 to type it because every day like you
00:10:43.160 said I see multiple reports of a
00:10:46.560 Christian Youth Minister a Christian
00:10:48.200 Pastor a priest Boy Scout men and women
00:10:51.680 yep men and women a Boy Scout leader a
00:10:53.760 police officer a teacher so it boils
00:10:56.600 down to a person in the position of
00:10:59.279 power manipulating is manipulating and
00:11:03.240 is actually taking advantage of children
00:11:05.800 and none of them as I've seen are drag
00:11:08.959 queens you know or part of part of the
00:11:12.160 LGBT yeah I I I got an argument with
00:11:15.000 somebody who who tried to say because
00:11:17.279 the police officer molested a a um young
00:11:20.920 man that it was gay and I said okay so
00:11:24.639 what you're saying then is every time a
00:11:27.279 man sexually assaults a or rapes is the
00:11:32.079 better word because it is a child cannot
00:11:34.959 consent and it's rape every time a man
00:11:38.360 rapes a CH a female child then that's
00:11:41.920 heterosexual problem right and they they
00:11:44.800 they would wouldn't no no that's no you
00:11:47.519 can't you can't have one it doesn't
00:11:49.720 matter what the it pedophilia is wrong
00:11:53.200 no matter what I don't care what you try
00:11:54.920 to blanket it as there's this group of
00:11:57.240 nasty people that try to pretend it was
00:11:59.000 part of the lgbtq community I'm sure
00:12:01.040 you've heard about it they're called
00:12:02.160 Maps you are not part of the LGBT Comm
00:12:05.000 uh Community you're not part of any
00:12:07.600 Community you shouldn't be part of a
00:12:08.800 community I'm sorry that you chose to to
00:12:10.920 to have this maybe you didn't choose
00:12:12.760 that's a shitty way to put it I'm sorry
00:12:14.600 that you're a pedophile I don't know why
00:12:16.360 the hell you're a pedophile you could
00:12:17.839 probably get some help and maybe deal
00:12:19.760 with that before you hurt people but the
00:12:21.399 minute you've crossed that line you are
00:12:23.399 a danger to society and you don't have a
00:12:25.440 place the end yeah period and again not
00:12:28.959 part of the lgbtq community and they're
00:12:31.760 trying to demonize the lgbtq community
00:12:35.040 with things that are mostly happening in
00:12:38.560 the Christian conservative Community
00:12:41.040 well and to be fair just like pedophiles
00:12:43.160 are in every single Community I have no
00:12:45.360 doubt that there's plenty of great
00:12:47.040 people that want to do good things and
00:12:48.480 healthy things for children in the
00:12:50.000 Christian Community but there is way way
00:12:52.240 way too many weird sexual abuse issues
00:12:54.560 to the point where they have their own
00:12:55.839 insurance for it and that should have
00:12:57.320 been the warning sign right there maybe
00:12:59.000 you're not doing enough careful scrutiny
00:13:01.120 before you allow people to be in
00:13:02.440 positions where they're working with
00:13:03.480 children but perhaps you should start to
00:13:05.800 address that in a different way instead
00:13:07.800 of getting insurance for the inevitable
00:13:10.120 sexual abuse yeah I mean and people
00:13:12.240 bring up Satanist all the time they're
00:13:13.839 like oh Satanist child will be well
00:13:15.399 here's the difference let let me lay it
00:13:17.560 out real real simple for you every
00:13:20.639 single branch of modern Satanism there
00:13:23.959 is a definitive no when it comes to any
00:13:28.240 sort of harm or sexual inappropriate
00:13:31.800 anything with a child is or anything at
00:13:34.120 all consent is the biggest you break
00:13:37.040 consent it's one of the biggest things
00:13:38.480 if you want to call it a sin whatever
00:13:39.800 you want to call it it's one of the
00:13:41.120 biggest breaches that you can have
00:13:42.800 within the satanic Community consent is
00:13:45.600 what we're built on bodily autonomy you
00:13:47.560 cannot have bodily autonomy or personal
00:13:50.199 uh you know uh personal accountability
00:13:52.440 or any of the things that we believe in
00:13:54.320 without that consent and so anything
00:13:57.399 that takes away the consent from any
00:13:58.800 anybody or anything but even animals
00:14:01.320 yeah you cannot beat harm you're
00:14:03.720 supposed to do the best you can to never
00:14:06.240 be an abusive dick bag period and a
00:14:09.040 child cannot consent so no anything
00:14:12.959 consent child children drunk people yeah
00:14:16.880 and so here's the difference between the
00:14:18.560 Christian Community and and the satanic
00:14:20.800 Community the Christian Community has an
00:14:23.000 insurance plan for this they generally
00:14:25.440 take the person and they move them to a
00:14:27.240 new church or something like that or
00:14:28.920 they do whatever because God forgives
00:14:31.000 the satanic Community if if you're
00:14:33.639 caught you are kicked out the
00:14:36.079 authorities are called on you and you
00:14:38.759 are never getting your ass back in it's
00:14:41.680 just you are that's you are done we we
00:14:44.800 do not put up with that period the
00:14:47.600 end there is there's no room for it and
00:14:49.600 that's where I get really messed up on
00:14:51.279 the Forgiveness concept if you feel as
00:14:53.600 an individual that it's the only way
00:14:55.160 that you can move forward for you and
00:14:56.600 you need to forgive people that's fine
00:14:58.720 but to demand forgiveness when it comes
00:15:00.759 to being assaulted or that you know as a
00:15:02.880 kid that you know somehow maybe you were
00:15:04.720 wrong or was a test or God this or God
00:15:06.720 that I'm sorry no you do not just
00:15:09.120 mandatorily have to forgive someone that
00:15:11.040 harmed you and in that case ever ever
00:15:14.000 you never have to if you need to move on
00:15:16.040 fine but you never have to forgive them
00:15:18.240 and I I hate that there's people that
00:15:20.040 are put in a position where they have to
00:15:21.440 feel like that's necessary yeah and so
00:15:24.040 we go from bathrooms we go then we go to
00:15:27.040 book Banning oh you know I mean now
00:15:29.519 we're Banning books left and right
00:15:31.600 anything with with anything having to do
00:15:34.639 with oh two guys kissed in this book and
00:15:37.399 all of a sudden it's pornographic but
00:15:39.399 yet okay we've got millions of other
00:15:41.519 books where a guy kisses a girl and
00:15:43.519 that's okay why is it okay that a guy
00:15:46.240 kisses a girl in a book and and that's
00:15:48.199 fine and that's a very good nighttime
00:15:50.000 story but if a guy kisses a guy all of a
00:15:52.199 sudden it's porn you know again I kind
00:15:54.160 of wonder what happens in these people's
00:15:56.000 heads but you know no it's the same
00:15:59.120  thing it is two people love each
00:16:02.000 other and you have you know a lot of
00:16:04.880 times some of these books are are
00:16:06.880 parents and and you know it's a it's a
00:16:09.920 family of two gay men and you know like
00:16:12.839 my two daddies or something like that
00:16:15.240 and all of a sudden they th this book is
00:16:18.079 pornographic why is it pornographic
00:16:20.240 because it has two men in it instead of
00:16:22.040 a man and a woman that's not
00:16:23.360 pornographic well and sometimes they try
00:16:25.720 to get you on like books like this book
00:16:27.680 is gay which they're saying oh this is
00:16:29.839 in elementary schools and it's teaching
00:16:31.399 you about oral sex and blah blah it is
00:16:33.720 not rated in the elementary library
00:16:36.519 range it is not available in you say
00:16:38.800 show me which which Library well it's
00:16:40.759 you know this Library over here that is
00:16:42.440 um that is a high school library or on
00:16:45.199 in some instances that is a middle
00:16:46.720 school library and those are places that
00:16:49.199 they belong um are they for all children
00:16:51.639 or all children mature enough to handle
00:16:53.440 certain content maybe not but that's
00:16:55.560 where you as a parent are supposed to be
00:16:57.560 involved in the things that your kids
00:16:59.319 are discussing or questions that they
00:17:00.880 may have because let me tell you 13 14
00:17:03.519 15 year olds are thinking about talking
00:17:05.760 about what their friends they're curious
00:17:07.480 about sex and if you're going to pretend
00:17:09.160 they're not then you know there's bigger
00:17:11.199 issues but the funny thing about book
00:17:13.000 bands is just the stupid stupid things
00:17:15.480 Charlotte's Web Believe It or Not Bann
00:17:17.640 book yep why was Charlotte's Web a
00:17:19.480 Banned Book it was unnatural and
00:17:21.480 blasphemous as humans are the highest
00:17:23.439 level of God's creation and so animals
00:17:26.119 talking required it to be banned
00:17:29.280 uh and then more egregious if you look
00:17:31.679 at the way these laws are dub tailed it
00:17:33.640 goes after communities of people of
00:17:35.440 color black people you know when you
00:17:37.360 talk about books like The Bluest Eye
00:17:39.280 where you're you're dealing with very
00:17:40.960 deep situations where where you have
00:17:43.280 black people that talk about how they
00:17:45.000 didn't feel like they were beautiful
00:17:46.360 because the beauty standards were so
00:17:47.919 wrapped around you know Caucasian looks
00:17:50.600 and and you're taking these books away
00:17:52.160 so you're you're taking away kids
00:17:54.320 ability to see themselves in literature
00:17:56.840 to make sense of the world to find
00:17:59.799 commonalities with people that are
00:18:01.400 struggling with the same things that
00:18:02.480 they've struggled and in the gay you
00:18:04.320 know lgbtq Community it's so detrimental
00:18:07.360 because they can't necessarily talk
00:18:08.720 about it at home they can't necessarily
00:18:10.559 share it with their friends maybe
00:18:11.760 they're not ready they're not
00:18:12.559 comfortable and so this literature this
00:18:14.760 world that they can safely explore who
00:18:17.320 they are as a person is maybe the only
00:18:20.120 place that they can safely see
00:18:22.360 themselves and and realize that they are
00:18:24.440 normal that it is okay that it's safe to
00:18:27.280 be who you are and they find strength
00:18:29.679 and it it allows them to begin that
00:18:31.320 journey to hopefully be able to share
00:18:33.640 that with people and to live a life
00:18:35.720 where they feel they can be their
00:18:36.880 genuine self and you take these things
00:18:39.080 away and these these kids have nowhere
00:18:41.400 to go yeah you remove their safe space
00:18:44.120 because like you said a lot of times
00:18:45.799 home is not a safe place for them I mean
00:18:48.640 it's sad that still in 2023 yeah there
00:18:52.559 are so many lgbtq children who do not
00:18:57.400 feel safe at expressing their feeling at
00:19:00.960 home because their parents are going to
00:19:03.120 shame them or or something like that and
00:19:06.360 you should be supporting your children
00:19:08.840 you should be you know you should be
00:19:11.200 there as a parent to support them not
00:19:13.080 shame them and you know if that is the
00:19:16.360 direction that they are are are honestly
00:19:19.840 feeling you know that's who they are
00:19:22.280 you're you're not going to change that
00:19:24.919 by shaming them you're going to make
00:19:27.039 them feel depressed you're going to make
00:19:28.919 them suicidal and then you take away
00:19:31.080 their books and so there's the other
00:19:33.000 safe thing that's gone and what we're
00:19:35.400 going to have is an increase in suicides
00:19:39.360 for lgbtq youth well exactly you look at
00:19:43.120 groups out there and I was so happy to
00:19:45.240 see that moms for Liberty was listed as
00:19:46.880 a hate group because it is um they're
00:19:48.960 out there saying we're here to you know
00:19:51.240 protect kids well you're definitely not
00:19:52.720 out there to protect those kids you're
00:19:54.760 definitely not out there trying to
00:19:55.919 protect their lives because what you're
00:19:57.520 doing is direct harming them and by
00:20:00.080 taking away the ability for kids that
00:20:02.600 aren't part of the lgbtq community to
00:20:05.720 understand and empathize with people of
00:20:08.720 the community you're also taking away
00:20:10.520 that that portion where kids can see hey
00:20:12.919 they're they're just people like us
00:20:14.120 they're just trying to live lives they
00:20:15.320 have the same Curiosities as we you're
00:20:17.120 you're destroying so much more than just
00:20:19.840 taking away a book you're not protecting
00:20:21.960 anyone and then they yell you know the
00:20:23.880 Bible still belongs in school my ass do
00:20:26.480 you know what's in that book I mean did
00:20:28.240 you actually read it you got adulteries
00:20:30.280 in there you got uh pedophilia rape you
00:20:33.880 you have incest murder yeah there's all
00:20:36.559 manner of messed up stuff babies being
00:20:38.880 killed by angels and you know people
00:20:41.159 offering up their daughters to protect
00:20:42.760 angels from being there's so much crazy
00:20:45.400 it's crazy and I'm not going to harp on
00:20:47.559 the Bible entirely because I know you
00:20:49.799 know it's important book to a lot of
00:20:51.080 people and and you can have that that's
00:20:52.880 your thing it's not my business but when
00:20:54.640 you start to put it out there and
00:20:56.360 legislate based off of it and push that
00:20:58.760 on other people who do not believe in it
00:21:00.720 there's a problem yeah and and a lot of
00:21:03.240 these laws are based on religious
00:21:05.720 Doctrine interpretation yeah
00:21:08.240 interpretation of religious Doctrine
00:21:11.080 right and I mean I went after Greg
00:21:13.520 Abbott on it because he's I'm signing
00:21:15.559 all these laws to protect parents and
00:21:17.799 parents should make the choices no no
00:21:19.799 you're signing laws for one group of
00:21:23.400 parents a Christian extremist or or
00:21:27.159 Evangelical Christian parents and that
00:21:30.679 is who you're focused on and everybody
00:21:32.520 else can basically go themselves
00:21:34.720 pretty much I mean here we are I I I'm
00:21:37.679 constantly outspoken and the Texas GOP
00:21:40.200 was putting out all the stuff about how
00:21:41.559 we're protecting trans youth by stopping
00:21:43.919 them from being able to get the care
00:21:45.440 they need and they ended up blocking me
00:21:48.400 on on um because I just kept
00:21:51.440 harping on it I'm not going to back down
00:21:53.200 when it comes to the trans youth have
00:21:55.320 very few voices and and even parents
00:21:57.760 that protect and and do support their
00:22:00.720 kids are being told you know parent
00:22:02.679 choice parent choice unless your kid's
00:22:04.360 trans and then we're going to tell you
00:22:06.320 exactly how you should care for your kid
00:22:08.039 not the doctors who you know maybe have
00:22:10.320 a little knowledge about biology and
00:22:12.559 chemistry and the way things are
00:22:14.000 supposed to work and and it pisses me
00:22:16.480 the freck off because you want parents
00:22:18.720 to be in charge unless they disagree
00:22:20.720 with you and that's that's your stance
00:22:22.799 no you're being a freaking bully and
00:22:25.000 you're abusing kids yeah and then you're
00:22:26.840 going to go after the hormon law I mean
00:22:29.320 the hospital in in Austin you were
00:22:31.400 telling me about Dell CH yeah Dell
00:22:33.360 Children's in Austin it was a department
00:22:35.480 that they ended up losing a bunch of
00:22:37.480 doctors and the doctors treated uh trans
00:22:39.679 youth to help them and it wasn't just
00:22:41.559 hormone therapy and they definitely
00:22:43.360 weren't gender mutilating whatever the
00:22:45.320  that means cuz you can't mutilate a
00:22:46.960 gender um but they weren't out there
00:22:50.080 giving sex changes there is such a
00:22:53.200 strong strict criteria for the way that
00:22:55.679 care is carried out for Trans Youth and
00:22:58.559 it involves counseling it involves uh
00:23:02.120 lengthly periods of exploration to help
00:23:04.840 understand each individual child's need
00:23:06.600 because each trans child has a very
00:23:09.159 specific need that will not replicate
00:23:12.159 between kids and and there's a lot that
00:23:14.440 goes into that and to sit there and
00:23:16.200 pretend that they're just doing uh you
00:23:18.000 know surgeries on kids it's just bull
00:23:20.480 crap yeah I mean I've always I've always
00:23:22.880 been of the mindset of if you can't win
00:23:25.640 your political or religious
00:23:28.559 um debate or or your stance without
00:23:31.559 lying you're on the wrong side yeah you
00:23:33.960 know and that's what we see time and
00:23:37.000 time again is lies lies and
00:23:40.000 fear-mongering about the lgbtq community
00:23:43.440 um just you know like you said gender
00:23:45.840 mutilation and I mean they paint this
00:23:48.279 horrible picture and it's lies it's it's
00:23:50.960 just not happening and and and you know
00:23:54.720 but there's horrible things that happen
00:23:57.039 in churches and that's okay we're going
00:23:59.039 to paint over and gloss over that but
00:24:01.600 we're going to tell a bunch of lies
00:24:02.919 about this community in order to
00:24:04.880 demonize it and you kind of brought it
00:24:07.080 back um in one conversation to you know
00:24:10.039 Germany the way that they the pink
00:24:12.279 triangles that they started giving out
00:24:14.039 when and you know that was not everyone
00:24:16.400 knows about it a lot of people do I
00:24:17.919 think at this point but during um during
00:24:20.760 that whole period of time one of the
00:24:22.279 groups they went after were uh gay
00:24:24.840 individuals and they would give them
00:24:26.360 these pink triangles to identify them
00:24:28.640 and separate them and they made it I
00:24:30.799 think it was one of the Avenues that
00:24:32.320 they made as palatable to start going
00:24:34.200 after people and you see it
00:24:35.399 unfortunately replicated in Florida with
00:24:37.679 some of the ways that they've done their
00:24:38.799 laws where you have individuals that
00:24:40.559 they're easier to demonize you know they
00:24:42.799 start talking about their pedophiles
00:24:44.399 they're grooming kids they're assaulting
00:24:46.600 kids they're they're this that and the
00:24:48.240 other and then I was I tried I wanted to
00:24:50.840 be happy because they had this um
00:24:53.159 pedophile law where they wanted to you
00:24:55.640 know essentially be able to give the
00:24:56.799 death penalty to what they were deeming
00:24:58.880 as you know child Predators which good I
00:25:01.440 mean I'm not going to say I think the
00:25:03.440 death penalty is a great thing I think
00:25:05.200 there's probably other ways to address
00:25:07.000 violent crimes and such like that but
00:25:08.880 with pedophiles it gets tricky because I
00:25:10.480 don't know there's a lot of positive you
00:25:11.799 can do with them but um then they
00:25:14.000 started saying well these are groomers
00:25:15.440 and they're pedophiles not even feel put
00:25:16.880 the two together they're setting up a
00:25:18.679 very ugly situation where they could
00:25:20.480 technically go after people in the lgbtq
00:25:23.640 community and say well look they're
00:25:25.760 predators and they've already set that
00:25:27.799 up in people's minds to be true yeah um
00:25:30.399 and so that's a slippery freaking slope
00:25:32.279 that people really need to pay attention
00:25:33.720 to because that's that's not okay and we
00:25:35.799 can't ever set that up these are these
00:25:37.559 are people living their lives they're
00:25:39.360 they're in their mind you know when
00:25:41.080 you're a transwoman you are a woman you
00:25:43.399 know you're living a life of a woman
00:25:45.000 when you're when you're a man you know a
00:25:46.600 trans man you're a man and they've had
00:25:48.960 to live this alternate life up to the
00:25:50.720 point where they were able to finally
00:25:52.559 transition and now they can finally it's
00:25:55.120 not you know a psychological only life
00:25:57.200 that they're hidden away they get to
00:25:58.520 finally be themselves and sometimes I
00:26:00.480 think you know you're excited to finally
00:26:02.240 be that gender you've always seen
00:26:03.919 yourself as to actually have that
00:26:05.720 physique you've always seen and you live
00:26:07.520 a little bit more daring like Dylan they
00:26:09.120 get mad oh she's so childlike and she
00:26:11.120 acts like a kid no she's a woman that's
00:26:13.640 excited to have you know the experience
00:26:15.559 to try on dresses to have her figure to
00:26:18.760 be excited about all the girly things
00:26:20.679 that she's always wanted to be able to
00:26:21.880 do and now she can look at herself and
00:26:23.320 say oh my gosh it's me it's me it's the
00:26:25.440 me I've always seen and so of course
00:26:27.240 she's Rel she's finally able to live her
00:26:30.120 life you know of course she's excited
00:26:32.279 she should be yeah yeah I mean the lot
00:26:35.240 it's like Florida and Texas I I I swear
00:26:37.919 they're in a competition to see who who
00:26:40.360 can be the the most bigoted and and you
00:26:43.640 know the the worst state and pass just
00:26:46.840 the ugliest laws there are and it's a
00:26:49.480 constant competition between these two
00:26:51.200 states they're they're states that are
00:26:52.840 pretty scary to to live in yeah I mean
00:26:55.880 our oldest daughter we've talked about
00:26:57.640 before she's a bit more gender fluid I
00:26:59.799 think she leans a little towards Mayo
00:27:01.440 often and I get scared because she goes
00:27:04.240 out and she's very outspoken she should
00:27:06.080 be comfortable confident outspoken about
00:27:08.679 things but you know you see these people
00:27:10.360 that are pissing their pants over the
00:27:12.159 fact that you know are you a man or you
00:27:14.399 a woman why are you in my bathroom and I
00:27:16.000 get scared that she end up in one of
00:27:17.559 these confrontations or there was that
00:27:18.960 issue that recently happened where two
00:27:20.720 people were at a golf those putt putt
00:27:22.760 places and they're you know two two
00:27:25.159 women and they're in a relationship and
00:27:27.200 they're old hands and doing the things
00:27:28.760 that young people do when they're in
00:27:30.279 love and this lady this little freaking
00:27:32.919 wiench of a woman decided that she was
00:27:35.240 going to um call her Buddies the cops
00:27:39.000 because they were doing this in front of
00:27:40.480 her kid and and they ended up getting
00:27:42.559 arrested yeah they kissed yeah oh my oh
00:27:45.200 my God a couple kissed yeah a couple
00:27:47.640 kissed well holy and and she called
00:27:50.279 her cop buddies um and it was outside of
00:27:53.360 Houston and um she called her cop
00:27:56.000 buddies and they came and and they
00:27:58.080 actually went to arrest these these two
00:28:01.519 women um and I think tizzy did a video
00:28:05.480 on it you know and so um if if if you
00:28:08.360 haven't checked that video out you
00:28:09.720 should go you know search through tizzy
00:28:12.360 thing it was always a good time yeah it
00:28:14.480 it it's it's been in the month of June
00:28:16.320 that he did it um and and he was
00:28:18.600 actually looking for the two women
00:28:20.760 because he wanted to be able to help
00:28:22.159 support them legally make sure that all
00:28:24.519 charges were dropped against them and
00:28:26.279 things like that but you know that was
00:28:27.760 just what did they do they kissed they
00:28:29.440 kissed that are are we are we back in
00:28:32.080 the 1960s where kissing um you know if
00:28:35.480 you're gay and you kiss in public it's
00:28:37.200 it's illegal I I I thought we moved way
00:28:39.880 past that we we have thankfully and the
00:28:42.399 younger generation is so good about
00:28:44.080 being outspoken and putting up with a
00:28:45.600 whale as crap um but unfortunately we
00:28:47.880 have a lot of very loud people in
00:28:49.880 positions where they get to make a lot
00:28:51.200 of annoying things for everyone's life
00:28:53.760 yeah and you you said something right
00:28:55.720 there which was the younger generation
00:28:57.720 and I want to give this younger
00:28:59.279 generation huge props I mean gen z um
00:29:03.360 and I don't know if 14-year-olds are
00:29:05.559 still considered gen Z or not but the
00:29:07.440 younger generation you all are kicking
00:29:10.039 ass because because the the younger
00:29:12.519 generation has become so inclusive and
00:29:15.799 so accepted and they just look at it as
00:29:18.159 so what if this person's gay so what if
00:29:20.000 this person's TR they are who they are
00:29:22.240 and in their parents' childhood that
00:29:25.760 wasn't the way things were you know and
00:29:27.840 it was it was a very scary time and you
00:29:31.840 know like you mentioned before our our
00:29:34.600 oldest daughter she's gay and even as a
00:29:37.200 dad now I'm still scared at times
00:29:39.760 because again we live in a very scary
00:29:42.159 state for if if you're you know in the
00:29:45.120 LGBT community um there are a lot of
00:29:48.200 very mean vindictive violent people
00:29:51.159 right in this state and I get worried
00:29:53.200 for my daughter but I don't get as
00:29:55.360 worried as I would have been worried in
00:29:57.679 the 1980s or the 1970s or or even the
00:30:01.600 1990s so things have gotten better and
00:30:04.480 the part of that is the youth and that's
00:30:06.880 why the the Republican party is so
00:30:09.399 afraid of gen Z oh yeah trying to put in
00:30:12.159 voting laws and all voting because they
00:30:14.880 they know that the things that they're
00:30:17.519 doing um and the things that they are
00:30:19.919 doing when I say they I'm not talking
00:30:21.760 gen Z I'm talking about Republicans and
00:30:24.200 the Christian nationalists and all that
00:30:26.000 they know that they are wrong they're on
00:30:28.919 the wrong side of history and this is
00:30:31.919 going to come back and bite them right
00:30:34.200 and it should it should absolutely and
00:30:36.320 and I hope that as the upcoming
00:30:38.640 Generations begin to get into politics
00:30:40.559 that they they don't fall for these
00:30:42.279 traps and that they do continue to
00:30:44.519 actually be these people and stand up
00:30:46.519 for marginalized communities and to
00:30:49.240 support one another I mean granted
00:30:50.840 there's always going to be crappy
00:30:52.159 elements in every generation and every
00:30:53.919 group of people but I have seen a lot of
00:30:56.320 things that I incred hopeful about and
00:30:58.480 and proud of um especially when it comes
00:31:00.720 to our youth yeah yeah and it it is it
00:31:03.840 is good to see um the youth being so
00:31:06.639 strong even though I know there's still
00:31:09.279 families that reject their children and
00:31:12.200 and as a father I absolutely cannot
00:31:15.679 fathom no rejecting my child um our our
00:31:19.440 our daughter came out to us at what 14
00:31:21.679 somewhere in there and it wasn't any
00:31:23.760 sort of fear you know she she didn't it
00:31:26.080 was she was literally still kind of
00:31:28.240 discovering herself no it was it's kind
00:31:30.440 of funny honestly it was one of those
00:31:32.120 situations where her and her very good
00:31:34.559 friend who's now her fiance they were
00:31:36.840 very much spending a lot of time
00:31:38.120 together and at some point I believe I
00:31:39.440 said something along the lines of oh so
00:31:41.120 when are you guys going to just come out
00:31:42.440 with it and let me know that you're
00:31:43.559 you're dating and she hadn't really said
00:31:45.360 anything and you know we we have a
00:31:47.159 relationship where that was not like an
00:31:48.639 an ugly conversation we were both kind
00:31:50.320 of laughing and but it was just so
00:31:52.159 obvious they were really cute together
00:31:53.960 they've been together almost 10 freaking
00:31:55.799 years at this point but it was just one
00:31:57.919 of those things we're like okay so we
00:31:59.679 kind of see what's happening here so you
00:32:02.360 know when are you gonna just come out
00:32:04.240 and tell us but we were always the safe
00:32:06.240 house you know when she was in high
00:32:07.840 school um you know she was part of GSA
00:32:10.600 the gay stra Alliance great organization
00:32:12.720 I wish all schools had them I wish all
00:32:14.840 schools would have those and and if
00:32:16.960 you're in school age appropriately let
00:32:18.559 me refrain before someone says something
00:32:20.600 like oh they they they're grooming yeah
00:32:23.159 um yeah age appropriately this was in
00:32:25.159 high school yep um and the GSA kids
00:32:29.039 would actually wind up seeing our house
00:32:31.519 as a safe place because they could come
00:32:33.720 over to our house and just be themselves
00:32:36.039 right they didn't have any judgment from
00:32:38.159 parents um you know it was you are who
00:32:40.919 you are if you want me to you know if
00:32:44.120 you tell me how you want me to address
00:32:45.440 you yeah tell me how you want me to
00:32:46.960 address you and I will respect that um I
00:32:49.919 might I might screw up you know but just
00:32:51.559 just poke me and let me know yeah you
00:32:53.480 know and and so we were always really
00:32:55.880 the safe house there so that it was nice
00:32:58.960 that our daughter felt comfortable
00:33:01.159 enough with us to to come out you know
00:33:04.320 as she started to to Really coales who
00:33:08.039 she was yeah but it's a discovery the
00:33:10.840 minute that you as a parent and I'm not
00:33:13.039 going to tangental lie this but as a
00:33:15.080 parent your job isn't to relive your
00:33:17.360 life or to vicariously explore things
00:33:20.480 you never got through your kid they're
00:33:22.360 experiencing their life for the first
00:33:24.200 time and figuring out who they are and
00:33:26.120 our job is to support them and give them
00:33:28.039 guidance and to not be malicious
00:33:30.360  you would think it would be so
00:33:32.919 easy you know it's like seems like
00:33:35.320 common sense you know um but but again
00:33:38.720 just huge props to to the younger
00:33:41.080 generation you you all yes you're
00:33:43.279 kicking ass keep doing what you're doing
00:33:46.440 keep supporting the inclusiv keep moving
00:33:49.919 forward you know I know it feels
00:33:52.559 probably like the weight of the world is
00:33:54.159 trying to push you back as schools are
00:33:56.080 trying to put stuff in you know they're
00:33:58.679 they're they're making you know they're
00:34:00.480 they're making medical laws more
00:34:02.840 difficult they're making counseling more
00:34:04.760 I mean they're in Texas they're trying
00:34:06.840 to replace counselors with um chaplain
00:34:10.560 you know I mean they are really trying
00:34:12.520 to push religion into the school and and
00:34:15.599 trying to push anything lgbtq out yeah
00:34:20.159 and I'm going to tell young people if
00:34:21.560 you don't like those laws if if you're
00:34:23.599 affected by like things like chaplain
00:34:25.760 push back don't be afraid afid to write
00:34:27.560 letters don't be afraid to to go ahead
00:34:29.560 and tell the superintendent and other
00:34:31.520 adults I'm not going to accept this if
00:34:33.800 you want to do peacefully protesting and
00:34:35.879 walkouts I definitely encourage that we
00:34:37.679 have the right to peaceful protest
00:34:38.960 that's written into our constitutional
00:34:40.399 rights and we have the right to exercise
00:34:42.159 those rights um so don't be afraid to
00:34:44.599 stand up for things and stand up against
00:34:46.960 things that are wrong like chaplain and
00:34:49.040 schools unless they're going to make
00:34:50.000 them inclusive and they're going to
00:34:51.639 allow people of many faith it seems like
00:34:53.599 right now it's focused on Christians
00:34:55.280 specifically and unfortunately looks
00:34:57.000 like they went through focus on the
00:34:58.079 family geared programs um but you know
00:35:00.839 push for other representation you know
00:35:03.560 there's there's Muslim kids in school
00:35:05.119 there's Hindu kids in school there's you
00:35:07.000 know Buddhists there's there's so many
00:35:08.680 different kinds of people and it's
00:35:09.960 school is supposed to be a secular space
00:35:11.920 where you get to learn and focus on
00:35:13.800 learning not you know fighting about
00:35:15.599 faith issues and things that don't
00:35:17.160 belong there but if they're going to do
00:35:18.640 it push for the inclusivity ask for that
00:35:21.920 and and ask representation you have that
00:35:24.280 right and you're okay to do that yeah I
00:35:26.200 mean you've been following some of these
00:35:27.800 laws in Texas um you know that that
00:35:30.920 they've been trying to push through and
00:35:32.400 I think you had said a lot of them did
00:35:34.560 not pass did not pass which is great um
00:35:37.320 you know they're they're going to
00:35:38.440 continue to try they use project Blitz
00:35:41.000 you know they they've really been using
00:35:42.960 projects Blitz since what like seems
00:35:44.960 like 2016 is or so if you haven't looked
00:35:48.200 into it look it up it it can be a rabbit
00:35:50.599 hole so be careful the resources that
00:35:52.440 you're utilizing compare notes and check
00:35:54.960 evidence but project Blitz was just all
00:35:57.160 about getting the churches gaining power
00:36:00.599 throughout the system and they're much
00:36:02.240 more outspoken I think it was Jason
00:36:03.599 rapert recently came out and just
00:36:05.560 blatantly said Christians run for
00:36:07.440 everything run for everything that you
00:36:08.760 can you know every office that's
00:36:10.920 available from the school boards on up
00:36:12.800 run and that's that's what they're doing
00:36:15.280 and um I'm not about theocracy we are a
00:36:17.520 pluralistic nation and Christianity
00:36:19.720 definitely has its place there um but
00:36:21.640 not making laws not being legislators
00:36:24.319 not deciding to put their faith in in
00:36:26.800 front of people you're there to
00:36:27.960 represent everyone and if you can't move
00:36:30.240 your faith aside and do that then
00:36:32.280 there's a problem and you probably
00:36:33.520 shouldn't be representing a diverse
00:36:35.800 group of people yeah and and there are
00:36:38.119 some some um Christian denominations
00:36:40.839 that are very lgbtq friendly um and then
00:36:43.960 you have the Evangelical militant branch
00:36:47.560 which unfortunately is the one that
00:36:49.720 seems to be growing and really pushing a
00:36:53.240 lot of this hate and these laws um you
00:36:56.040 know and trying trying to push America
00:36:57.960 into a theocracy that's the whole point
00:36:59.640 of project Blitz is to move America into
00:37:02.520 much more dominionist where they believe
00:37:04.560 that you know the world is really gods
00:37:06.680 and that God should rule everything so
00:37:08.800 it's kind of scary when you think about
00:37:10.119 it like that because again we're not
00:37:12.160 we're not all Christians right so uh why
00:37:14.319 should we be living based on their faith
00:37:16.160 and it's not so many interpretations of
00:37:18.440 that specific Faith just like many
00:37:20.119 others you know whether it's the Jewish
00:37:21.720 faith or the Muslim faith or there's so
00:37:23.599 many different interpretations and uh if
00:37:25.960 that's the way you to live great you can
00:37:27.760 do that you could decide for yourself
00:37:29.319 based on those laws that you've believed
00:37:31.480 in for your your religion but uh
00:37:34.040 probably not for for other people yeah
00:37:36.599 and you know again it's it's just it
00:37:39.040 would be great except for the fact that
00:37:41.760 they are targeting and demonizing the
00:37:44.599 lgbtq communities and and and promoting
00:37:47.720 lies just I mean vicious lies oh yeah
00:37:50.800 and and that's the part that it's like
00:37:53.480 no you know what what happened to love
00:37:56.119 your neighbor and and get along and
00:37:58.400 accept and no judgment and all of that
00:38:00.400 sort of you know that that went out
00:38:02.560 the window now it's all judgment yeah
00:38:05.280 recently well not very recently but
00:38:06.920 recently when it was representative Zoe
00:38:08.760 zeper when on Montana they were so
00:38:11.319 spiteful to the point that they put her
00:38:12.960 out in the hallway because they didn't
00:38:14.520 want to listen to her because she was so
00:38:15.800 outspoken and because she was so uh
00:38:18.280 strong in her representation of the
00:38:20.839 lgbtq and specifically trans community
00:38:23.560 that they had her out there in the
00:38:25.160 hallway outside the chamber
00:38:27.280 working from the bench yeah and then and
00:38:29.839 then not only that then okay so it's bad
00:38:32.839 enough she has no office she's working
00:38:34.720 in the hallway then a bunch of these
00:38:36.680 people got together and they brought
00:38:38.359 their MIMA in yeah and said oh you know
00:38:41.200 what we can do we can go to there early
00:38:44.319 and we can all sit on the benches so Zoe
00:38:46.880 doesn't even have a bench to sit on and
00:38:48.760 Zoe has to work standing up in a hallway
00:38:51.720 just making it so uncomfortable it's
00:38:54.200 it's so bigoted and it's open blatantly
00:38:57.079 boted blatantly outward bigoted and
00:39:00.400 everybody you I shouldn't say everybody
00:39:02.599 but there is a good portion of people
00:39:04.599 that are okay with that and I don't
00:39:07.560 understand it and again you know I
00:39:09.359 called my parents out on bigotry when
00:39:12.119 you know they that was an uncomfortable
00:39:13.800 conversation yeah it was but you know
00:39:16.119 they said some they they said some and
00:39:18.079 they did some not so very nice things
00:39:21.160 around my oldest daughter and I'm sorry
00:39:24.000 if I'm not giving my parents a pass mm-
00:39:26.560 nobody else is G getting a pass and I
00:39:28.599 don't have the best relationship with my
00:39:30.560 parents but still they're still family
00:39:32.599 and I don't give anybody a pass if
00:39:34.640 you're going to be a blatant bigot yeah
00:39:37.040 I'm going to call you a bigot and Bo by
00:39:39.280 the way me calling you a bigot because
00:39:42.000 you're a bigot is not bigotry so you
00:39:44.960 know however you wrap it up in a bow
00:39:47.160 that oh well these these bigoted um
00:39:50.319 beliefs are okay because of some book
00:39:53.520 with a magic Sky person you know or some
00:39:56.760 Pastor told me that no it's still
00:39:58.520 bigotry yeah you know bigotry I don't
00:40:00.800 care where you're coming from it the
00:40:02.880 perspective if you're perspective is
00:40:04.880 about being hateful towards someone if
00:40:06.400 you want to be a racist or a bigot you
00:40:08.280 can't say oh well my religion no your
00:40:10.119 religion does not support you being a
00:40:11.920 hateful bigot or racist person or
00:40:14.359 Prejudice person and pushing that on
00:40:15.839 other people that's you um and that's
00:40:18.319 there's no place for that and if you
00:40:20.000 believe that that's what you are uh
00:40:21.640 faithful towards you should really take
00:40:23.440 a better look at who you are as a person
00:40:25.200 because that's pretty Jack up um yeah
00:40:27.640 that was very uncomfortable with your
00:40:28.720 parents and it's still kind of a weird
00:40:30.280 situation but you know it's it's just
00:40:32.520 the way things have gone um and it's
00:40:35.400 it's really sad because my parents were
00:40:37.800 never religious I wasn't raised
00:40:41.000 religious they just totally went off the
00:40:44.280 the deep end and now you know they they
00:40:46.680 again they made some very rude some very
00:40:49.319 bigoted remarks in front of our daughter
00:40:51.960 and I'm not going to take that I'm
00:40:54.160 just not it's you know my job is to
00:40:57.319 protect my children and I don't care if
00:41:00.520 you're my parent or not if you start to
00:41:03.720 harm my children there is that there is
00:41:06.480 a whole other side of me that introduced
00:41:09.880 to that's that's what parents are for
00:41:11.520 they're they're to guide support protect
00:41:14.560 and uh you know hopefully you do those
00:41:16.440 things to the best of your ability but
00:41:19.119 and again that's that's what you know
00:41:21.079 that's the sad part because that's
00:41:22.640 what's missing from a lot of the people
00:41:25.319 in the LGBT Community is the support of
00:41:28.400 their family they their their families
00:41:31.119 should be loving them supporting them
00:41:33.680 you know and and so many times they
00:41:36.520 don't get that we saw that time and time
00:41:38.760 and time again but that's where
00:41:40.440 individuals can step up and and be there
00:41:43.400 you know family is what you choose I
00:41:45.359 know that very well because I I have a
00:41:48.280 very messed up family um you know
00:41:50.119 dynamic but I have you and the kids and
00:41:52.400 I have you know siblings and you know my
00:41:54.520 sister thankfully is a great person that
00:41:56.839 I you know I can have a relationship
00:41:58.760 with but it was hard fought and uh I
00:42:01.160 have a lot of other people that I
00:42:02.280 consider close to me that are like
00:42:03.680 family because that's the people that
00:42:05.800 stepped up and that's the people that
00:42:07.119 involved thems in my life and uh you
00:42:09.480 know they deserve that too so get out
00:42:11.720 there folks if you support the community
00:42:14.280 and and be there for these folks cuz
00:42:16.319 they deserve that everyone deserves to
00:42:17.920 have people that they know are there for
00:42:19.839 them yeah exactly family doesn't have to
00:42:21.839 be the the the people that birth they
00:42:23.920 don't have to be your your direct blood
00:42:26.559 descendant family is who you make it
00:42:29.119 yeah you know and and you can find
00:42:31.680 Family within a group of people um you
00:42:34.400 know our our congregation we have people
00:42:37.040 that you know probably consider close to
00:42:39.680 family absolutely you know and and uh
00:42:42.920 it's it's a good thing and it's it's one
00:42:45.040 of the things that TST does well I agree
00:42:48.480 there's I mean the ability to have a
00:42:50.680 close-knit group of people that you you
00:42:53.319 know are there for you is nice and I
00:42:55.119 think it's harder when you identifies
00:42:57.400 other like a Satanist or when you're
00:42:59.880 part of the lgbtq community because
00:43:01.839 there's just so much prevalent
00:43:03.880 negativity in the world that tells you
00:43:06.000 that you don't have a right to that
00:43:07.480 space and you do you have a right to
00:43:09.119 friends and family and Gatherings and
00:43:10.920 get togethers and and community and it
00:43:13.440 is it's always going to be there you
00:43:15.400 know that's one of the things I like
00:43:16.400 about Satanism is is we're not there to
00:43:18.200 judge you as an individual the only time
00:43:20.040 you're going to run into a problem is if
00:43:21.440 you are doing something dangerous or
00:43:23.480 harmful taking away people's bodily
00:43:25.400 autonomy uh hurting people then you know
00:43:28.240 there'll be an issue but outside of that
00:43:30.000 it's pretty hard to piss piss people off
00:43:32.240 you know yeah yeah it really is but you
00:43:34.559 know I I think um you know again this is
00:43:36.880 our our first podcast um we thought we
00:43:40.000 should definitely cover pride month as
00:43:42.960 our first one um my My Hope Is this one
00:43:46.520 went pretty good um and that they just
00:43:49.200 get better well people let us know yeah
00:43:52.160 you know and and you know we're going to
00:43:54.200 keep doing these um we're going to be
00:43:56.359 talking about different subjects again
00:43:58.760 these are our personal beliefs the these
00:44:02.119 are from our personal standpoint even
00:44:04.040 though you know we're in TST we're both
00:44:06.680 ministers um we're not speaking on
00:44:09.640 behalf of tsts this is our own personal
00:44:13.400 belief we are here as Satanist talking
00:44:15.440 about our lives and hopefully we get to
00:44:17.520 involve a couple of other you know
00:44:19.240 individuals we know a bunch of really
00:44:20.599 cool people that have we've talked to
00:44:22.359 about having these conversations so we
00:44:24.319 hope to bring you a lot of other cool
00:44:25.640 perspective Ives as well but at the end
00:44:27.680 of the day we're just people and we're
00:44:28.920 just people trying to live and live the
00:44:30.640 best we can uh based on who we are and
00:44:33.480 who we happen to be in part our Satanist
00:44:36.599 yeah so with that very happy pride month
00:44:39.720 yes live your genuine self and know that
00:44:41.599 people will love and respect you and if
00:44:43.240 they can't they probably don't deserve a
00:44:45.040 place in your life but uh you are valued
00:44:47.359 as an individual for who you are yep you
00:44:49.640 are valued you are loved and and you be
00:44:52.720 you and and that is the most important
00:44:55.400 part and and just know that there are
00:44:58.200 people out there supporting you and
00:45:00.000 fighting for you every single day y
00:45:02.520 that's right and so with that we will
00:45:05.400 we'll hell Satan you and and wish you a
00:45:07.359 very good uh whatever part of the day
00:45:08.880 you happen to be in and uh thank you so
00:45:10.599 much for listening yeah hail satan
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